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[–] [email protected] 228 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Can all the folks saying "I don't care" on this just stop? If this doesn't affect you, why are you commenting at all?

Some smart folks managed to reverse engineer Apple's secretive tech that they refuse to put on any platform they don't own, which is fucking awesome. Even if you don't give a shit about using iMessage, it's awesome they were able to stick it to Apple at all, and make the gap between iPhone and Android that much smaller.

And of course Apple comes in and breaks it. Do you not wonder why? Does this mean there was a minor security hole that was exploited or was it something else that changed? This arms race is fascinating, regardless of your preferred mobile OS.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

We're literally on a platform designed to escape these closed ecosystems and walled gardens. A platform built around open communication standards.

And still there's a downright bizarre contingent of people around here that seem to be chomping at the bit to defend or downplay Apple's iMessage shit.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

That's funny when most of the comments are saying "just use WhatsApp" as if that's not a walled garden for messaging.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I’ve found the complete opposite on here. Outside of the apple communities but even those get trolled/downvoted from nerds browsing all like everything else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t RCS an open communication standard?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, but no. RCS itself is. Google RCS however, not especially. Google keeps promising to open up the bits they've tacked on but have yet to. Which includes things like the open end-to-end encryption. Apple will be implementing vanilla RCS which does not have that yet. But they have claimed if I remember correctly that they are going to help develop that. I don't know if I believe that or if that's just something they said to foster some false Goodwill

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago

I read that it was a 16 year old kid which makes it more fascinating

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

The “I don’t care” crowd could be the rest of the world, that use messaging apps instead of SMS or iMessages. Try to consider this factor first. Not everything should be centered in America, or exclusively to what happens there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I understand that. But that doesn't have anything to do with my point, which is that if someone doesn't care about this issue, they don't need to show how much they don't care.

In fact, I would argue that your general sentiment -- that of considering others in different situations than oneself -- applies more to the people acting like this topic doesn't matter because it doesn't affect them personally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Guess you’re right. I’m not justifying them, but trying to put a bit of light into why a lot of people don’t care. I’m not the kind of person to express such a moot opinion, but I guess some people get tired of seeing a conversation that only affects only a portion of people and feel the need to express their feelings. Again, I’m the kind to remain silent, but there are all kinds of people out there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Rule no°1 on Reddit/Lemmy: Every user is part of the US unless stated different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Not everything should be centered in America, or exclusively to what happens there.

That's literally the opposite of what's happening.