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and the fish asked "what is this water you speak of?" (lemmy.ml)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This implies memes with politics that aren't political memes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the Bernie Sanders "I'm once again asking for your support" fall into that category? I've seen it used for lolz in all sorts of topics that had nothing to do with politics. Same for any other memes featuring political figures

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That photoshopped meme of Obama putting a medal on himself also fits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you know it's photoshopped?

I remember Obama granting himself the Hero of the Soviet Union medal and pinning it to himself using a satanic portal. I think. I'm pretty sure. Or so I've heard at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I know it's photoshopped because I was there and Obama was wearing an eyepatch. The image used for the meme shows all four of his eyes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That Is Correct.

One thing about which fish know exactly nothing is water, since they have no anti-environment which would enable them to perceive the element they live in.

  • Marshall McLuhan, War and Peace in the Global Village
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Had.. had he never observed fish jumping out of water (to catch food or escape becoming it)..?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was a media theorist not a biologist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does that answer my question lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a metaphor. Hopefully this helps clarify things.

The version from David Foster Wallace’s “This is Water” commencement speech at Kenyon College:

There are these two young fish swimming along and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way, who nods at them and says “Morning, boys. How’s the water?”

And the two young fish swim on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes “What the hell is water?“

The point of the fish story is merely that the most obvious, important realities are often the ones that are hardest to see and talk about.

full speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6p9L3LK_9g

more info

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

ideologies may function as prepackaged units of interpretation that spread because of basic human motives to understand the world, avoid existential threat, and maintain valued interpersonal relationships. ... such motives may lead disproportionately to the adoption of system-justifying worldviews. Psychologists generally agree that personality traits, individual difference variables, needs, and ideological beliefs seem to have something in common.

so in this sense memes are like little atoms of ideology aka "prepackaged units of interpretation that spread because of basic human motives to understand the world"