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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (49 children)

The bias is justified. The left is correct. Markets don't create wealth without necessarily simultaneously creating poverty

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For more information, research "surplus army of labor", "primitive accumulation", and "accumulation by dispossession".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Primitive accumulation is a bad term. It works if you've read the theory behind it, but otherwise it sounds like someone saving up a bunch of money then starting a successful business compared to what it is which was colonial genocide, enclosure of the commons, and mass starvation as people were ripped from agricultural labor and cast into the factories and mines to work for feudal lords turned industrial capitalists.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nuh, uh. Markets controlled by Oligarchs who spend billions to erode social safety nets do. A market socialist economy with strong regulations and systems like a UBI wouldn't create poverty, while still being a market (albeit a very different one to what we have today). Albeit I do think that for many things (like healthcare) having a market of any kind is just dumb.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Markets controlled by Oligarchs who spend billions to erode social safety nets do.

And where do these billionaires come from? Do they just spring out of the ground?
Oligarchs are a feature of capitalism, not a flaw.
A market with a UBI would simply increase rent by the UBI amount. Markets in capitalism exist to extract wealth, it is what they encourage. Thus they will support those that are best at extracting wealth, which leads to the creation of those billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I said market socialist. In a market socialist economy there would be no billionaires. Also housing is an absolute necessity, which means it shouldn't be governed by a market at all, no matter the economic system. Only things outside of staple foods, a roof over your head, utilities, drinking water, healthcare and other things absolutely necessary for your continued survival, can (not should) be governed by a market, and one that doesn't funnel money upwards.

Capitalism in any form is absolutely horrible and should not exist.

Also, creating artificial demand should be banned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's already one long-ass discussion about market socialism in this thread, so I'm not gonna start another, but glad to hear your perspective!

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