Egon

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, China has been collapsing or about to collapse since the 60's. I'll believe it when I see it. Meanwhile the US isn't doing so hot, which we can actually observe without the need to make the financial troubles of one part of one sector in one region into some sort of sign of an oncoming apocalypse.

Regarding making use of capitalism: Yeah, that's what dengism is all about. Capitalism has its uses, we've just outgrown it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did you know that at it's peak the USSR gulag system had more than a million citizens imprisoned, which worked for scraps, receiving little to no pay?
Oh wait actually that's the US current day, my bad.

Also posting isn't praxis. I hope you don't think you're actually doing anything on this website. Organizing is for the real world!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lmao life expectancy rising goes brr. Women gaining independence goes brr. Advancements in the sciences goes brr. Life quality improvements goes brr. Going from a rural peasant state ruled by a monarchy to a modern country within few decades, while the same process took centuries for the capitalist states goes brr. USSR

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

China is the only country that is on track to hit the goals stated in the Paris Agreement.
China has invested trillions in combating climate change.
75% of people alleviated from poverty are chinese citizens.
China has a higher life expectancy than the US.
China has a higher median wage than several european countries.
The US has the largest prisoner population in the world.
Slavery is legal in the US as a punishment for a crime.
The leaders of the riots in Ferguson were all murdered. Several political leaders have disappeared or died mysteriously over the years in the US.
The US "used to have" a project by the name of COINTELPRO which focused on suppressing political dissidents.

Why exactly would you take the western system over China?
What makes China authoritarian, yet the country with the largest prisoner population in the world and a proven record of suppressing and murdering political dissidents not authoritarian?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You get what you give

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Youd probably get a lot further if you engaged in good faith, instead of being snide

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

You complained about homeless people you weasely little liar. Go cry about it on /pol/ or go back to reddit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They're not going to be convinced

A good faith discussion is not about convincing another, but instead about having an open exchange of information.

They're not going to be convinced when they're already putting words in the opposition's mouth.

They're illustrating a point which you failed to engage with. In no way did it put words in your mouth. The fact that you choose to be insulted by the way they decided to illustrate that point rather than engage with them in good faith says a lot more about you.

To reiterate: You didn't engage with their argument, but good try nonetheless. It's nice to see you cling to a fallacy rather than engage in good-faith discussion of an argument clearly illustrated for you to relate to.
Do better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's already one long-ass discussion about market socialism in this thread, so I'm not gonna start another, but glad to hear your perspective!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're talking about the Nazis. Your post was about nazis, people are responding talking about nazis. The discussion is clearly about nazis, which comes as a result of you framing the discussion about nazis. If you didn't want it to be about nazis, but I stead your perception that leftists label political opponents "nazi" as a way to otherize them and justify political violence, then you should've argued that point instead.
Do better, learn what words mean.

And answer the question

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're talking about the Nazis which were the people that perpetrated the holocaust. We think it was good to use violence, you seem to think otherwise. What did you think should've been done to stop the holocaust?

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