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I created this account two days ago, but one of my posts ended up in the (metaphorical) hands of an AI powered search engine that has scraping capabilities. What do you guys think about this? How do you feel about your posts/content getting scraped off of the web and potentially being used by AI models and/or AI powered tools? Curious to hear your experiences and thoughts on this.


#Prompt Update

The prompt was something like, What do you know about the user [email protected] on Lemmy? What can you tell me about his interests?" Initially, it generated a lot of fabricated information, but it would still include one or two accurate details. When I ran the test again, the response was much more accurate compared to the first attempt. It seems that as my account became more established, it became easier for the crawlers to find relevant information.

It even talked about this very post on item 3 and on the second bullet point of the "Notable Posts" section.

For more information, check this comment.


Edit¹: This is Perplexity. Perplexity AI employs data scraping techniques to gather information from various online sources, which it then utilizes to feed its large language models (LLMs) for generating responses to user queries. The scraping process involves automated crawlers that index and extract content from websites, including articles, summaries, and other relevant data. It is an advanced conversational search engine that enhances the research experience by providing concise, sourced answers to user queries. It operates by leveraging AI language models, such as GPT-4, to analyze information from various sources on the web. (12/28/2024)

Edit²: One could argue that data scraping by services like Perplexity may raise privacy concerns because it collects and processes vast amounts of online information without explicit user consent, potentially including personal data, comments, or content that individuals may have posted without expecting it to be aggregated and/or analyzed by AI systems. One could also argue that this indiscriminate collection raise questions about data ownership, proper attribution, and the right to control how one's digital footprint is used in training AI models. (12/28/2024)

Edit³: I added the second image to the post and its description. (12/29/2024).

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 3 days ago (4 children)

the fediverse is largely public. so i would only put here public info. ergo, i dont give a shit what the public does with it.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't think it's unreasonable to be uneasy with how technology is shifting the meaning of what public is. It used to be walking the dog meant my neighbors could see me on the sidewalk while I was walking. Now there are ring cameras, etc. recording my every movement and we've seen that abused in lots of different ways.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The internet has always been a grand stage, though. We're like 40 years into this reality at this point.

I think people who came-of-age during Facebook missed that memo, though. It was standard, even explicitly recommended to never use your real name or post identifying information on the internet. Facebook kinda beat that out of people under the guise of "only people you know can access your content, so it's ok". People were trained into complacency, but that doesn't mean the nature of the beast had ever changed.

People maybe deluded themselves that posting on the internet was closer to walking their dog in their neighbourhood than it was to broadcasting live in front of international film crews, but they were (and always have been) dead wrong.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

We're like 40 years into this reality at this point.

We are not 40 years into everyone's every action (online and, increasingly, even offline via location tracking and facial recognition cameras) being tracked, stored in a database, and analyzed by AI. That's both brand new and way worse than even what the pre-Facebook "don't use your real name online" crowd was ever warning about.

I mean, yes, back in the day it was understood that the stuff you actively write and post on Usenet or web forums might exist forever (the latter, assuming the site doesn't get deleted or at least gets archived first), but (a) that's still only stuff you actively chose to share, and (b) at least at the time, it was mostly assumed to be a person actively searching who would access it -- that retrieving it would take a modicum of effort. And even that was correctly considered to be a great privacy risk, requiring vigilance to mitigate.

These days, having an entire industry dedicated to actively stalking every user for every passive signal and scrap of metadata they can possibly glean, while moreover the users themselves are much more "normie"/uneducated about the threat, is materially even worse by a wide margin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Our choices regarding security and privacy are always compromises. The uneasy reality is that new tools can change the level of risk attached to our past choices. People may have been OK with others seeing their photos but aren't comfortable now that AI deep fakes are possible. But with more and more of our lives being conducted in this space, do even knowledgable people feel forced to engage regardless?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

People think there are only two categories, private and public, but there are now actually three: private, public, and panopticon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But what if a shitposting AI posts all the best takes before we can get to them.

Is the world ready for High Frequency Shitposting?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Is the world ready for High Frequency Shitposting?

The lemmy world? Not at all. Instances have no automated security mechanisms. The mod system consisting mostly of self important ***'s would break down like straw. Users cannot hold back, but would write complaints in exponential numbers, or give up using lemmy within days...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I couldn't agree more!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Do you own your own words?