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this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2023
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What does CSAM exactly mean? (I understand the point of the meme completely just never heard of such abbreviation.
It's child porn, and as horrifying as you've been told it is. Some scumbag trolls were posting it on lemmy.world's memes sub and so .world finally decided to close open signups.
When did we switch to that instead of CP?
a) "CP" is a very online phrase that I imagine hasn't permeated popular culture for good reason
b) calling it "pornography" is tacitly implying it is arousing and/or serves a purpose, by calling it "abuse material" you remove any positive connotations
I think being more specific is also a good thing. Two letter acronyms are too broad. As CSAM, it's unambiguous what it refers to. But CP means many things. Eg, in software dev, it's often used for "control plane". Some video games (eg, Pokemon Go) use it for "combat power". I think ESO used it as "champion points" (though might have been a different MMO).
Ah, makes sense now.
Porn is a legal thing that normal people enjoy. The term CSAM takes a stance that it is always abuse. I think they are basically interchangeable but CSAM is the currently preferred term.
But it is always abuse regardless of the term, so a new term is wildly unnecessary
Sometimes, terms need changing to separate it from something else. Porn in itself is legal and fine. When adding children in the mix it's easy to get caught up in the porn part of the discussion rather than the child part.
Separating the terms puts the focus more on the child abuse part.
I've literally not once seen anyone "get caught up in the porn part" what
Have you been paying attention to the debate at all?
Many bills in the US have been proposed to mitigate child porn by just targeting porn in general.
Why are you opposed to using terms that are accurate?
Bullshit, child porn is "cp". CSAM means Child Sexual Abuse Material
That's absurd. People aren't stupid. We're capable of understanding context and playing semantical games with something so serious is quite honestly pretty offensive.
What would you say is the difference? I feel like the terms are interchangeable. The comment you replied to didn't give the exact abbreviation but it gave the essence of what is meant by the picture.
By OC trying to imply a difference, one could be led to assume that OC believes there is some part of the illegal material that they do not consider abuse.
I vehemently disagree with that line of thinking. It is abuse, and that is why it is illegal.
Who in their right mind thinks calling CP is validating it in any way? Just because some morons decided to make a politically correct term for it doesn't change what it is.
The politically correct term CSAM is to differentiate it from ordinary porn which is legal and at least somewhat socially acceptable and ensure that people understand that when children are involved, it is always abusive. The terms mean the same thing, but being precise with language is important.
People already understand that. 🤦
I think most people understand it, but even referring to it as a type of "porn" normalizes it to some extent.
Uh. No it doesn't. This sounds wildly delusional.