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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does CSAM exactly mean? (I understand the point of the meme completely just never heard of such abbreviation.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's child porn, and as horrifying as you've been told it is. Some scumbag trolls were posting it on lemmy.world's memes sub and so .world finally decided to close open signups.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When did we switch to that instead of CP?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

a) "CP" is a very online phrase that I imagine hasn't permeated popular culture for good reason

b) calling it "pornography" is tacitly implying it is arousing and/or serves a purpose, by calling it "abuse material" you remove any positive connotations

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think being more specific is also a good thing. Two letter acronyms are too broad. As CSAM, it's unambiguous what it refers to. But CP means many things. Eg, in software dev, it's often used for "control plane". Some video games (eg, Pokemon Go) use it for "combat power". I think ESO used it as "champion points" (though might have been a different MMO).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ah, makes sense now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Porn is a legal thing that normal people enjoy. The term CSAM takes a stance that it is always abuse. I think they are basically interchangeable but CSAM is the currently preferred term.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it is always abuse regardless of the term, so a new term is wildly unnecessary

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes, terms need changing to separate it from something else. Porn in itself is legal and fine. When adding children in the mix it's easy to get caught up in the porn part of the discussion rather than the child part.

Separating the terms puts the focus more on the child abuse part.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've literally not once seen anyone "get caught up in the porn part" what

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Have you been paying attention to the debate at all?

Many bills in the US have been proposed to mitigate child porn by just targeting porn in general.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why are you opposed to using terms that are accurate?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Bullshit, child porn is "cp". CSAM means Child Sexual Abuse Material

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would you say is the difference? I feel like the terms are interchangeable. The comment you replied to didn't give the exact abbreviation but it gave the essence of what is meant by the picture.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By OC trying to imply a difference, one could be led to assume that OC believes there is some part of the illegal material that they do not consider abuse.

I vehemently disagree with that line of thinking. It is abuse, and that is why it is illegal.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who in their right mind thinks calling CP is validating it in any way? Just because some morons decided to make a politically correct term for it doesn't change what it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The politically correct term CSAM is to differentiate it from ordinary porn which is legal and at least somewhat socially acceptable and ensure that people understand that when children are involved, it is always abusive. The terms mean the same thing, but being precise with language is important.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People already understand that. 🤦

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think most people understand it, but even referring to it as a type of "porn" normalizes it to some extent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Uh. No it doesn't. This sounds wildly delusional.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That's absurd. People aren't stupid. We're capable of understanding context and playing semantical games with something so serious is quite honestly pretty offensive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Ohh, I though the guy just misspelled scam :b