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What's your plan if Trump wins in November? (lemm.ee)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm feeling so uneasy with everything I've been seeing. I keep thinking about what we will be this time next year, and if shit hits the fan, what is your plan? I'm queer and was politically active in 2020, so I would potentially be considered a political enemy.

The only blueprint I can think of is what you do in an active shooter situation; Flee, Hide, Fight.

I know there's that romantic notion of "don't be a coward, get out and protest", but I remember the brutality of the 2020 protests firsthand, and even then I thought "thank god I'm going toe to toe with the CPD and not the CCP". Next time is going to be different. The president now has authority to send drone strikes. Protests and riots don't stand a chance agains missiles and live rounds.

Flee- I have an Uncle in Montreal who my family could potentially use as a way to at least temporarily escape the chaos. The hope I'd have is that Canada and other countries would accept American refugees, however that's not a guarantee.

Hide- If borders are closed, lay low and move away from major cities if possible. If civil war breaks out, try to get away from the violence even if you think your side will win. Todays losers may be tomorrows victors.

Fight- If cellular data/ social media algorithms can keep track of you, and surveillance can make sure there's no movement, this would be the last resort of desperation. I guess if possible try to either find a group for safety in numbers, or conversely go guerrilla as groups of resistance would make easy targets.

Sorry my mind is running and I'm getting scared.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cool, how many people died due to lockdowns and other mandates? Or better yet, what was the net years of lossed life due to the lockdowns (including those that didnt die but have shortened lives)?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Dude. I am not even going to discuss this with you. You can believe whatever you want. I am just telling others that you are wrong. Enjoy

https://vcresearch.berkeley.edu/news/study-vermont-ranks-best-covid-19-response-globally-us-ranks-near-bottom

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So there are two things going on here; the first is that you think more rights should have been taken away. The second is that this is a one dimensional analysis and it doesnt consider the impacts of what was done.

Its like if you want to win a lifting competition and you take steroids. The end result is that you do well in the competition but you also have to consider the results of taking the steroids. Studies like this ignore the extra results.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can believe whatever you want, my friend. I still remember the lines of trucks taking corpses away and the morgues not being able to keep up when the rest of the world managed quite a lot better. Even now Covid is much less of an issue everywhere else.

If you think lockdowns caused more deaths than that, but were never reported on, or that vaccines and lockdowns were more deadly, then you go ahead and do just that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I didnt say anything about vaccines, I am talking directly about lockdowns; vaccines are another completely different discussion.

And its not about what I believe its about what the actual impact of a policy is. Do you at least recognize that people were harmed and died due to lockdowns and other covid policies?