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A feature Google demoed at its I/O confab yesterday, using its generative AI technology to scan voice calls in real time for conversational patterns associated with financial scams, has sent a collective shiver down the spines of privacy and security experts who are warning the feature represents the thin end of the wedge. They warn that, once client-side scanning is baked into mobile infrastructure, it could usher in an era of centralized censorship.

Apple abandoned a plan to deploy client-side scanning for CSAM in 2021 after a huge privacy backlash. However, policymakers have continued to heap pressure on the tech industry to find ways to detect illegal activity taking place on their platforms. Any industry moves to build out on-device scanning infrastructure could therefore pave the way for all-sorts of content scanning by default — whether government-led or related to a particular commercial agenda.

Meredith Whittaker, president of the U.S.-based encrypted messaging app Signal, warned: “This is incredibly dangerous. It lays the path for centralized, device-level client side scanning.

“From detecting ‘scams’ it’s a short step to ‘detecting patterns commonly associated w[ith] seeking reproductive care’ or ‘commonly associated w[ith] providing LGBTQ resources’ or ‘commonly associated with tech worker whistleblowing.’”

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If it starts being mandatory and not an optional feature you can turn on or off at will, I'll worry.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You can turn it off all you want, it won't stop the scanning and collection.

Like turning off Google Location history, its just hidden from your view.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Like turning off Google Location history, its just hidden from your view.

I obviously don't trust Google (who does?) but you say that like it's a verifiable fact. Is it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

IIRC it was, then the EU stopped it. I don't know if they still do it outside of the EU.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep put ur phone traffic through wire shark and u really location gets sent to google regardless. They do claim not to store it tho but I wouldn't believe that for a second.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep put ur phone traffic through wire shark and u really location gets sent to google regardless..

Have you done that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We don't know for sure. Google has never lied to us before, right?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Its okay if you work for Google, you can just say so.

Or you are naive and gullible.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Lol, I'm not saying Google is or isn't doing that. I'm just saying that you are just spewing bullshit without any evidence whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Silly user: you can’t fully disable features intended to keep you safe

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Trouble is when everybody else uses it, just because you turn it off doesn't mean you won't have issues.