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[–] [email protected] 90 points 8 months ago (6 children)

You're looking for opinions? I got opinions.

  • The Chosen One who gets dragged around like a sack of potatoes until they Come Into Their Own and go on to Turn The Tide.

  • The Wise Yet Enigmatic Sage.

  • The Sharp-Tongued Princess.

  • The Rogue With A Heart of Gold.

  • Plots based on misunderstanding ancient prophecies that are so vaguely written they could be cookie recipes.

  • Gods that slot into neat roles on a godly table of elements.

  • Magic systems so detailed and prosaic you may as well call them technology.

  • Elves that are exactly like every other elf character you've ever read about except for one glaring but superficial difference which is there to make you think the author's not plagiarising their own favourite author.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Now I want to read a fantasy comedy where someone trying to make cookies from an ancient recipe is whisked off on an adventure to fulfill the prophecy, but they just want snickerdoodles dammit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

That sounds amazing. OMG I would so read that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

as a reward they get one magical wish and they wish for snickerdoodles

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I want the ancient recipe to be formatted like a modern blog post. You have to read the entire Silmarillion before you get to the list of ingredients and the instructions.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Me reading the wheel of time:

  • The Chosen One ✓ the main male characters, but definitely Rand

  • The Wise Yet Enigmatic Sage ✓Moiraine

  • The Sharp-Tongued Princess. ✓Nynaeve

  • The Rogue With A Heart of Gold. ✓Mat

  • Plots based on misunderstanding ancient prophecies that are so vaguely written they could be cookie recipes. ✓All the prophecies

  • Gods that slot into neat roles on a godly table of elements. ✓The forsaken all having distinct methods to get to the top

  • Magic systems so detailed and prosaic you may as well call them technology. ✓The one power

  • Elves ✓Warders

All that said, I'm still enjoying the series thus far.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Sorta star wars too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I honestly don't understand the appeal of Robert Jordan. I made it through 50 pages of The Eye of the World before throwing it into the nearest little library. By then I had uncovered every fantasy cliche known to man, made even worse by the writing style of a 12 year-old.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

It is my favorıte book series. j just like the story and the characters

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

The Eye of the World suffers from being a fantasy work published in its era, when publishers wanted Lord of the Rings. So it’s basically Lord of the Rings. Chock-full of cliches because that’s what got published. The series gets significantly better from there on.

Jordan wasn’t without his shortcomings as a writer, but he was very good at two things I find most appealing in a fantasy author: worldbuilding and hard magic systems. This is the same reason I love Brandon Sanderson, despite his (comparatively) weak prose against someone like, say, Rothfuss.

He also, when he knew he was dying, managed to outline enough of his planned ending that another author was able to take it up and write the final three books of his series after he died, which is a really cool gesture for his fans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I started that book over and over and just could not do it. But then my dad convinced me to read it further. I did. Got hooked by book three, and then got stuck in a loop of reading the series on repeat. Love it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

that's what I have been thinking

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

I think ypu just don't like wheel of time lmao

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Elves that are exactly like every other elf character you’ve ever read about except for one glaring but superficial difference which is there to make you think the author’s not plagiarising their own favourite author.

For real. There has to be a better use of elves other than "they live in the woods and appreciate nature and hate dark elves or night elves or whatever your story calls them"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I'm at least glad to find out it wasn't a horrible attempt at a politically correct rebrand of the Drow.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Chosen One who gets dragged around like a sack of potatoes until they Come Into Their Own and go on to Turn The Tide.

The Wise Yet Enigmatic Sage.

The Sharp-Tongued Princess.

The Rogue With A Heart of Gold.

I was expecting a joke about Star Wars: A New Hope later in the post!

Yeah, those have all been done to death in novels and I'm sick of the reluctant chosen one the most.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

You may as well be describing The Matrix.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Magic systems so detailed and prosaic you may as well call them technology.

I'm just the opposite. I like magic systems that are basically alternative physics. Gimme some of that inherent plausibility Brandon Sanderson.