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Of course i'm not saying internet users have to use it. Or that it has to completely replace Youtube or other streaming services in its complete entirety.

Here is why internet users should start using Peertube, no matter how much or less they use it than Youtube. Simply letting them know it exists is key.

Peertube is essentially an interface with a varying amount of instances hosted by volunteers that all build up the bigger Peertube federated service with all the videos. Unlike alternatives this makes it more likely to be around long term.

it has the highest chance of other video user generated content services being around for years to come due to being federated. If Youtube shuts down good bye to alot of that years worth of content. If a peertube instance closes down only a smaller portion of videos would be lost, but that doesn't close down the entire program because all the other instances in theory would still be feferated.

It's open source meaning less chance of seeing ads on or by videos when not using an ad blocker. Donations are always encouraged to help fund the servers. But not required.

Summary:

  1. longer lasting due to being federated even while making less profits.

  2. Peertube is open source.

  3. Donations are welcome but not required just to use the services usually.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've published a good handful of videos on YouTube. Mostly speedruns and glitch/exploit tutorials. (I'm not monetized or anything. Never really was trying either.)

I haven't made any videos in quite a while, but I'm very much planning to only publish future videos only on PeerTube.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

maybe port over some of your previous videos to grow content on peertube as well if it’s possible. not sure if there’s any legal issue with this tho.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

If it's his own it's coolio

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If its their content he should just be able to reupload the clips.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

@inspxtr
If it's his own videos then he owns copyright to them, so shouldn't be any issues.

@rob299 @TootSweet

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Not a perfect solution either...
Say a popular content creator hosts and posts his content on their own instance, decides it's not financially viable anymore for the burden it creates amd shuts it down.
No way to back it up except for disallowed downloads (assuming he requested it in his comments).
Also who moderates CP, reposts and spam? Good luck indie hosters if they open up to the general public instead of trusted uploaders.
Whitelisting releases is not a viable solution at scale.

Since I am not a user of peertube, how is transcoding solved? I suppose it happens client-side since it would destroy bandwidth and compute from the hoster but that would destroythe battery from mobile users?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I understand, there is an option to run transcoding servers standalone. So a single gen 5 pcie motherboard could run two alveo ma35d encoder cards and plow through a ton of encodes simultaneously. It wouldn't be cheap of course, but in terms of running a media server hosting video, it is not impossible. This is the kind of thing in which groups of people working together would be more financially viable than separate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Interesting and neat to know.
Both solutions (monolithic and federated) have their pro and cons.
Feel like the ownership vs money aspect is the biggest deciding factor.

(and backups)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Transcoding happens server side. The operator can turn that off or limit the options

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

If one server goes down youl have to switch to another but peertube will continue to work. That's the advantage.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Kind of my main gripe with YouTube repost bots here. In the end, you're using someone else's bandwidth and storage, you should respect their wishes. Alternatives like Peertube exist and should be used more instead of finding ways to make a website be less shitty.

Also looking into Owncast, platform effects are real but they're not gonna go away if people just keep using exactly these services.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I don't think peertube will succeed in scaling because video streaming and transcoding takes so much more resources to run than lemmy, and I can't see volunteers doing this for nothing in return in the long run.

Tens of thousands of lemmy users can be hosted on hundreds of dollars per month; I bet it's 10x more for peertube.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last time I tried it the federation seemed kinda janky.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Tends to vary server to server, Mastodon has similar issues regarding that.

A good work around is to use Sepia Go which tries to search all instances for content. But of course their could be a few that go by their radar.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

all videos i post on kbin are from peertube

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I wish all federated instances would allow login like oath with each other

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about non-internet uses? Is there an analog version?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On peertube depending on the license the uploader chose you are able to just freely download the video to your device directly from the instance no addons/extentions required on desktop. This option won't always be available, but is on most uploads. Just be sure that it is actually their content or covered by fair use or you might still face copyright issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I started a small YouTube channel about game dev stuff and I find it increasingly annoying as a creator.

Seeing ads when I just want to look up one thing from my own video, no possibly to switch out a video when I detect an mistake...

I already created a PeerTube channel and will most probably use this mainly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Or use both platforms with Peertube as your main.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here I am, all ready to give it a whirl. Seems like a tutorial is in order.

@snaptastic Please let me know whether this comment passes your relevancy test.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago