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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apparently that women are people who are far more like men than they assume. Most of the perceived gender differences in behavior are due to social conditioning. People vary greatly from each other as individuals, but when comparing population groups the averages are pretty close, especially if you account for social norms of the environments people were raised in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most of the perceived gender differences in behavior are due to social conditioning.

Even if that's true, they're still differences though aren't they? Social conditioning leads to differences just like any other environmental factor can. Social conditioning isn't "less real" or the like just because it's social

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh, for sure. But the number of people who seem to think that those differences are inherent is far too many. Which is why we get a lot of questions like the ones from OP, which only perpetuate the problem.

If we stop assuming people "just won't get it" because of who they are, then we are better able to sympathize and work together to solve problems.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That we want bigger pants pockets.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why shouldn't men understand that?

It's rather simple. I went shopping with my teenage daughter (on one of her good days LOL) and she explained it to me thoroughly, and went for cargo style.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It does seem simple to explain, which adds to the mystery. I'll often wear something like my jean jacket just for a place to carry things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's not to understand about that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's what I'd like to know. It's 2023 and we still can't hold so much as our hands in our pockets because of gender norms, so someone somewhere doesn't understand the struggle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That's what I'd like to know.

so someone somewhere doesn't understand the struggle.

I would doubt that conclusion.

I suspect the fashion makers understand things pretty well. And they do it anyway, because they think women should wear things like that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

It's crazy to me how small women's pants pockets are. Like dayum y'all really can't hold shit in there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It drives me nuts that little girl pants have no pockets, but boy pants do!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago