Really considering moving my main computer to Linux with the way things are going
this post was submitted on 17 Nov 2023
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I did this the moment they dropped copilot on my taskbar without any prompting. It was my gaming machine so it took a little getting used to, but it’s been solid ever since.
I did not ask for an AI chatbot in my os. I don’t want an AI chatbot in my os.
You could go to Settings -> Personalization -> Taskbar and turn the Copilot button off. Or you could install a whole new OS to accomplish that, I guess. Whichever is simpler.
I over reacted and took the Linux route. It wasn’t just one thing that prompted the change, but copilot was the icing on the cake.
I’ve been unhappy with windows for a few years, but it’s always been easier to ignore it and continue on. Something in me must have snapped about the same time a few guys at work were talking about gaming on Linux. Worked out well for me, might not work best for everyone.
I don't think it's an overreaction - you have a line, and when it was crossed you switched.
I'm dual booting my laptop and most of the time I stay using Linux. There just no point using Windows except some specific tasks.
I tried doing this the other day. Due to my current GPU (3080) it was too many hoops to jump through just to play a game. I don't want to spend time configuring my setup to make the game run in the little amount of free time that I have ಥ‿ಥ
Although the system is very efficient I've decided to move my side project to be on Linux, making my Windows install to be purely for gaming. I was using WSL previously with a Mac for my day job.
Maybe if I switched to an AMD GPU I'll do a proper Linux gaming setup.
When did tech go from adding nice useful features to shoving shit up everyone's ass without consent.
I don't know, when did it? I installed this update on Windows 11 and there's a simple toggle in the settings to turn off the Copilot button on the taskbar. And even when it's not disabled, I just don't use it when I don't want it to do something. This thread - like many others on this topic - is full of weird histrionics over this.
Very naive understanding of what it actually does.
If you are fine with being datamined by software and device you paid for, more power to you champ!
I am sure you got nothing to hide and you don't do any crime haha
It's basically a wrapper for Bing Chat. If anything I'm disappointed by how little it does. Possibly because I don't have Microsoft Office, it has some integrations with that when doing searches through your data (this is a feature of Office rather than of Copilot, though). Do you have any sources indicating it's doing more than that?
Have you checked the terms of use?
Your question implies that you think there's something specific in those terms of service that's problematic. Care to share?
OP already told you, they datamine your stuff.
What specific part of the terms of service cover datamining? OP said "If you are fine with being datamined by software and device you paid for, more power to you champ!", which is just a vague generic claim. If you're going to say that the Terms of Service allows for it please actually quote the bit that does so. Otherwise this is just wild fearmongering.
Lol how about you go look for it yourself, since you're the one who's gonna be using it. We're trying to do you a favor by warning you, if you don't care that's fine, but we're not going to handhold you through it.
You brought it up. You either had some specific reason to think it was relevant or you're just fearmongering.
Refusing to explain that reason hints pretty strongly at the latter.
Of course they would backport telemetry upgrades
"More useful than Cortana" is the lowest of bars.
More useful than the thing I know my heard people talking about disabling? Wow, what a time to be alive!
More useful at collecting your data.
Microsoft is doing a really good job convincing me to switch to Linux. Hopefully soon that will be a realistic possibility for me. Fuck Microsoft.
What the heck IS Copilot?
I hate articles that tell you, "Blorp is amazing! Blorp is coming out in 3 days! Everybody should have Blorp! Don't miss out on Blorp!'
Bing chat sensors it's output so much
And the "personality" they gave it annoyed me far more than any human ever has.
I am unimpressed with copilot on Windows 11. Privacy aside, It seems like a web wrapper for Bing ai, which is a performant chat bot, but isn't anything special when you compare it to openai's data analytics ai.
It wasn't able to update PC settings or files, for example. Though, I only had 15 min with it.
Indeed, this is my biggest complaint about Copilot - it doesn't seem to do anything that I can't easily do by just popping over to Bing. I'm hoping that it will see more updates in the near future.
Tbh the grail for me would be if it could execute code in a persistent, local, virtualized environment. I'm sure that sort of product will come to Windows, but it can't come soon enough for me.
Oh goodie, now we can get the best of both clippy and Microsoft's Nazi chatbot, right on our desktop!
"It looks like you're trying to get some more Lebensraum, would you like some help with that?"
"No, you stupid thing, I'm just deleting a few files!"
That article is from 2016, about an experimental Twitter chatbot that Microsoft tried out and immediately gave up on when it went awry. Clippy is even more ancient. This is ridiculous.
A joke is a lot like a frog, you can learn a lot by dissecting it, but the patient usually dies in the process.
It also dies when it's in an environment it can't survive in. The textual medium is terrible for sarcasm, especially when you're using it alongside people who are serious about hating on Microsoft for weird reasons. You need to mark it with an /s
It appears you are angry with me. Do you want me to explain how great I am?