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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck poachers, don't get me wrong, but fucking hell, I wish people had the same kind of energy when it came to billionaires, who are literally responsible for the deaths of millions of humans (by virtue of hoarding so many resources as well as creating and maintaining a system that relies on exploitation and suffering to benefit them and only them).

If only society cared about oppressed and marginalised people as much as it does about cute animals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Society doesn't care about cute or endangered animals. The rangers represent a minority.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Society doesn’t care about cure or endangered animals

That's bullshit.
I'd agree that not enough people care, but significantly more people care about cute endangered animals than they do marginalised and oppressed human beings.

It doesn't take a study to see the difference in attitudes and engagement (though studies have been done, feel free to invest your own time looking them up).

The fact that you've responded to me to focus on the animals but not on the people my comment is actually about is a perfect illustration of my point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Incredible. Even PITA migrated during the great Reddit exodus.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Great rebuttal lmao

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Only rhino burgers or long cooked stews made from endangered animals

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your attitude is the only real reason for any gun control in America.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes - the rich and powerful don't want those they oppress and exploit to rise up against them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow, watch me get down voted by all the redditors flooding the site. Wish they would take their bootlicking back where they came from if they enjoy the oppression so much

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the fuck are you on about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

His down votes must be because of redditors, so he doesn't even CARE what they think! 😭

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you really don't know, then you probably can't understand. If you're being ironic, you missed and hit moronic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well it's hard to grasp someone's point when they don't actually articulate it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro, your opinion is like the majority of reddit are you high?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What opinion? The only reason any piece of gun legislation has ever passed is to keep minorities and poors from arming themselves against oppression. That's fact. Reddit is a bootlicking hellscape of do nothing liberals who want dasy government and mommy corporate to keep them safe and busy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I, for one, fully support this development.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I like the idea of every poacher being neutralised, I also understand that the "poach police" may intentionally/inadvertently kill innocents with their blanket immunity; plus many poachers may be poor af hired-guns that aren't the actual source or root cause for the market, and may not dent the trade at all... Hope I'm wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I also understand that the “poach police” may intentionally/inadvertently kill innocents with their blanket immunity;

Is there any evidence that that has been happening? (This article is from 2017, and it mentions "more than 20" poachers being killed in 2015, but doesn't mention any non-poachers being killed, which it seems it would have, given it's talking about the downsides.)

While I agree that taking the fight to the people financing the poaching, reducing the number of poachers - and providing a very clear disincentive for other "poor af" hired-guns to take up the mantle - could still help.

Personally, I don't think any implied sanctity of human life extends to people who are killing endangered animals for profit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reverse poacher rhino bbq birthing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, this is not really a solution. Poachers don't do what they do because they're greedy and hate animals, they do it because they're poor and have often no other choice but to risk their lives to make a living, and they are probably getting something like 10$ per rhino horn. This is a systematic problem perpetually reinforced by the actual people we should be shooting: the millionaires who hire the poachers. They are the ones destroying the environment, exploiting animals and people and reselling those same rhino horns for ridiculous amounts of money on the black market.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then they should be stealing from the rich. Not killing endangered species.

And at ~ $20000 USD/kg for African and ~400000 USD/kg for Asian, and them not taking the meat. Its definitely for profit and not survival.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could this method be used to reduce illegal homelessness too ?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

jesus-christ

Oh wait, I saw your other comment, you're doing a satire. Carry on.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

no, fuck murder.

Don't get me wrong, fuck poachers, but murder is never the solution, it just breeds escalated violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Actually they tried the normal way, where they didn't shoot and asked the poachers to surrender / tried to arrest them. But the rangers would get shot and the animals would continue to get poached.

Seeing this as a problem, a new executive order / law was passed allowing shoot at sight orders at national parks / protected zones.

Poaching has reduced, the number of rangers getting shot has reduced. The number of poachers getting shot has reduced (they don't wanna fuck around anymore).

Overall it has increased peace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Endangered-animal lives are much more precious to me than humans-who-are-willing-to-murder-endangered-animals lives, so I disagree.