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I just noticed that there are quite a few users on Reddit from r/WorldNews who are defending Israel unequivocally and when I checked some of the users they seemed to be engaging on topics only about Israel/Palestine and they seem to be extremely active, so I have checked the Internet and there are even some older BBC article and Reddit posts discussing exactly this issue: https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

There are. In the first week of the attacks, the Israel Times had a blog post about Act 2 of the war. Here's the blog post: https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/our-role-in-act-2-of-the-war/

My country's news outlet even has a section that informs us about the disinformation campaigns going on on both sides and addressing/correcting what's probably the truth.

Edit: they're on Lemmy too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember back when r/conspiracy blamed everything to the left of the John Birch Society on Mossad, because they liked exchanging "Jewish" with "Israeli" to look less like raging anti-semites.

But in reality... Mossad does exist. Duh. Foreign intelligence and propaganda campaigns are universal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah the thing about Mossad is that they’re on par with the CIA in ambition and skill and unfortunately they also happen to be Jewish. One side is going to look at them because CIA-like, the other is going to look at them because Jewish.

Frankly I think they’re probably trying to influence things some, but from what I hear they’re more of the assassin type. I think a lot of people have a lot of interest in the United States heavily funding Israel and ignoring Ukraine. And the people who benefit from us not throwing massive amounts of weapons at Israel tend to suck at influencing us in these ways

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What country/news outlet is that? This should be more common

Have you noticed specific instances on lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Belgium's VRT. I've seen other countries' outlets starting to do it too.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The link says nothing about bots.

You are making this sound more mysterious than it is.

The benign terminology in this blog article is: “act 2” is the ground offensive, the “act 1” was Hamas’ attacks on Oct 7. There’s also no mention of “act 3”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you read the article? It's suggesting Israeli citizens step into conversations and defend Israel. No need for bots, there are people to do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I did, and it says things, but not the things that the original commenter said, nor implied. But apparently calling out misinformation is not welcome here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

They didn't say anything about bots? Not sure what you're trying to call out.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems likely. I've been an internet leftist for a long time now and that sub has always been disinterested in the left, but the level of outright hostility recently is extreme.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I checked r/worldnews a few days ago and the comment is absolutely flooded with pro-israel and mainly support the disproportionate respond. Any anti-israel comment will either downvoted to hell or removed. I thought astro-turfing, but then i guess you don't really need to get paid to defend something unethical.

Or maybe they're israeli, there's a lot of israeli enjoying the slaughter and even called it "Pallywood", the term coined by conspiracy theorist in early 2000, arguing the Palestinian has been faking their death.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's like next-level Sandy Hook denialism.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

would be embarrassing if intelligence services didn't deploy bots to push propaganda and create divisions

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, at that point are they even trying?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

What is Reddit?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

There are definitely pro-Russia bots. At some point they would all come online at the same time and post the same thing but with different synonyms.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I just noticed that there are quite a few users on Reddit from r/WorldNews who are defending Israel unequivocally

They're here too, and one of them is a mod of quite a few communities.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Honestly don’t know.

I avoid Reddit politics at all cost nowadays. Using an RSS for the several subreddits I like to keep track of and that’s it.

Reddit is a heavy toxic cesspool when it comes to politics. Blatant racism, hateful comments and advocating for deaths of people they don’t know (as long it is not themselves).

I recommend just avoid it and keep track of it on Lemmy or a different place you like.