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[–] [email protected] 66 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

Yeah, let's give the trump administration the power to seize companies it doesn't like, that is a great idea that def won't be abused all the time

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The author probably forgot who runs the nation of usa.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

We no longer live in a world where our biggest fear would be the government controlling high level corporations and their operators.

We now live in a world controlled by Sociopathic Oligarchs who can afford to create government level technology. Right now it's mostly tourism rockets and satellites, but now we see Skum weaponizing that technology, and/or using it as a bargaining chip. He has cut off Starlink in a war zone to benefit the county who defers to him, but is openly hostile to the US, and now he's threatening to cut off our access to the space station. He is using tech that WE PAY FOR with government contracts and grants, to pursue his own diplomacy, for his own benefit, and against our interests.

Eventually, someone will start building and stockpiling actual weapons, perhaps even atomics. Then we will be asking why someone didn't step in and stop them before they became a bonafide threat.

We paid for Skum's technology, and he gets to control it as a courtesy. Just the threat of using it against us should be enough reason to declare him a national security threat, confiscate his American-taxpayer financed businesses, and imprison him.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Has anyone considered funding NASA?

They made rockets that didn't explode with duct tape and a TI-83 calculator.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Shouldn't be incompatible with nationalizing SpaceX and Starlink. Just give it all to NASA, actually.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, that's the ideal.

Is it likely? Ehhhh

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

From this admin? Nah. It'll be stolen and given to, idk, Thiel or Vance or whoever, but not nationalized, just reprivatized.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

They didn't, because someone got paid to write this article!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Step one Musk needs to be arrested and sent to El Salvador.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Starlink should not just be nationalized but internationalized.
It is internet for everyone on earth, not everyone in the USA.

Every larger nation deploying their own constellation would be a pointless waste of resources, and every smaller nation having to find reliable partner-nations to tap into for that internet access would inevitably lead to people ending up without access due to political games.

Low orbit satellite constellations are the perfect candidate for sharing, they would literally sit unused over most of their orbits otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think every larger nation deploying their own constellation would reduce people losing access due to political games.

If there's only one network with the same topology as Starlink, then the USA, China, or Russia will end up making a bunch of rules on everyone else just like Elon does today. Look how the USA abuses centralized internet infrastructure already. Multiple overlapping systems would be wastefully redundant, but reduces the risk of censorship.

We can't get along and can't have nice things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You want a truly multinational organization responsible for it, nothing that can be controlled by a single nation, even one as (ex)influential as the us.
Something based on the UN perhaps.

Combine that with making internet access a human right, to stop denying connectivity outright.

Ideally then you could't enforce meaningful censorship, but more realistically you would route regions to their respective governments servers so they could censor as before on their territory.
That would not guarantee free access to the internet to everyone, but should be an acceptable compromise to basically all nations.

After that, other doubting nations could still pull their own constellation, nothing is stopping that.

I would love if the internet program was uncensored, but that probably needs personal circumvention same as now, if such a program wants any degree of success.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

Lets reach a compromise. Impeach Trump (successfully) and then take away SpaceX from Elon. That way things would be fair.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago

Trump has been impeached successfully. Twice. What I assume you mean is that he hasn't been removed from office. That could be the consequence of an impeachment, but not necessarily.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

We? No. USA can if it wants that shit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

American exceptionalism is so fucking annoying. Their country is failing to a point hopefully this first person shit rightfully corrects to third person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

American exceptionalism definitely sucks, but this is not an example of American exceptionalism. The source is an article from an American magazine, published for an American audience.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

No thanks, demolish Leon Hitler's space program and bury it. NASA should be the US leader for space missions and not a South African neo-Nazi sack of shit.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 17 hours ago (55 children)

You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

Has US nationalized anything this millenia? I really don't see that ever happening

[–] [email protected] 34 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Tax burdens for billionaires

[–] [email protected] 19 points 14 hours ago

Also losses. Gotta get that sweet, sweet too-big-to-fail bailout money.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

NOW they complain about giving Musk money?
Most of the 38 billion was given by Biden.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Just having such wealth and thus power in hands of singular humans is risk to all of humanity. With musk you are but big enough drug fueled temper tantrum away from pretty important infrastructure coming crashing down.

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