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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

I've been saying this for years. the footprint that spaceX represents in national launch authority is out of whack to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

When's the last time the US nationalised something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 minutes ago

I think during world war 2. But things were worse then 15% unemployment and people still had massive economic leverage. I don't think the US government is nationalizing anything anytime soon now. Neither party will participate in it because they are in the pockets of the oligarchs.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 hours ago

Racism. 1776.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

We should just fund NASA and let SpaceX and Starlink go bankrupt to competitors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

SpaceX has loads of capable engineers. If NASA gets a massive budget increase, they need to draw from that pool of talent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

The oligarchs wouldn't like that precedent but they might go for purchasing SpaceX since it is owned by a foreigner. Kind of like with TikTok....

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

I don’t think the majority of Americans understand what that means. They’ll just scream “commies!” And raise their maga flag.

But the idea of a starlink-like business owned by UN would be nice, and not an American corporation owned by a nepobaby Elmo.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

In the USA space-x gets away with a lot. A few years ago they announced they were no longer going to bother with getting all the FAA approvals needed for their rockets because it took too long. Space-x still got government contracts.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago

If your want proof that the wealthy live by a different set of laws, look no further than the time Elon Musk, ceo of SpaceX, went on a podcast and smoked weed.

SpaceX has DOD contracts for launches, and somehow him blatantly violating federal law had no impact on the contracts his company fulfilled for the government.

Do I think weed should be classified like it is? No.

Do I think that everyone should be held to the same standard? Yes. And if anyone else had been involved in government projects while going on podcasts and smoking weed, they’d at the very least be fired.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

A few years ago they announced they were no longer going to bother with getting all the FAA approvals needed for their rockets because it took too long. Space-x still got government contracts.

How long back was that? I genuinely didn't hear about that, but I believe that would happen. I tried googling "space x faa" but I'm getting results of FAA investigating rocket issues and approvals of rocket models.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Not sure if they followed thru but this was 4 years ago I remember reading about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You should familiarize yourself with Telsat Canada's LEO plans. Should be complete in less than 2 years.

Telsat Lightspeed

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

They say this is for enterprise and government, and they talk about "terminals". This seems more like a Hughes network, and let me tell you, if it's that bad, you want nothing to do with it.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

Yeah, let's give the trump administration the power to seize companies it doesn't like, that is a great idea that def won't be abused all the time

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

Congress has always had this power. I'm personally for nationalizing telecomm companies.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The author probably forgot who runs the nation of usa.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Has anyone considered funding NASA?

They made rockets that didn't explode with duct tape and a TI-83 calculator.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Shouldn't be incompatible with nationalizing SpaceX and Starlink. Just give it all to NASA, actually.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Step one Musk needs to be arrested and sent to El Salvador.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

No thanks. We need to shut down all U.S. affiliation with prisons outside the U.S. Release those prisoners or transfer them back to the U.S. and have proper trials. Trump needs to stand trial for the fake electors and for every unconstitutional measure he has done before/since as an unconstitutional act that the Supreme Court deems unconstitutional should not be considered an official act. The President should be suspended from all duties until Congress performs an investigation draws up the articles of impeachment and it is tried by the Senate.

Musk should be tried for election interference and any other laws he may have broken but it should be done right here in the U.S. If anything freeze all of his accounts and require him to step down from any/all roles within his companies as part of his required bale terms, or otherwise he would be choosing to spend the time awaiting trial in jail.

These actions would ensure they aren't trying to drag court cases out for years, they would want the court cases to move along faster.

Would Trump get convicted by the Senate, unlikely. That's on us for voting terrible people into the legislative branch. But we can't complain about those who break the law if we think it's fine to break the law when it fits our wants. We need to update those laws legally or tear the whole thing down and say Musk and Trump didn't break any laws because we didn't think those laws mattered as well.

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