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“Brexit has been great for my journalism career, don’t you agree?”
It wasn't pointless at all. It accomplished exactly what the conservatiives wanted to do.
It broke the U.K. That's what they wanted. That's what they got. Exactly as planned.
Conservatives aren't trying to fix things and make them better. They're trying to destroy everything in order to gain full control. it's easier to do, when everything is broken as opposed as to when it's FUBAR. Then they drain the money into their personal accounts from whatever grift they can pull off.
Why does everyone think their plan failed? It didn't. This is what they wanted. The UK globally lost 10 years fighting over this Brexit garbage, and it still has work to do to fix it. I remember when the pound was 2:1 over the dollar. Not anymore, and not until the conservatives blow up the U.S. market in the same way.
It wasn’t pointless at all. It accomplished exactly what the conservatiives wanted to do.
Don't forget the Russians' too. They put big money and effort into dividing and weaking the eu. And it worked and it is still working.
Yup let's not forget that the Tory government buried the Russian Interference Report and when it was finally released it revealed that the inquiry was specifically asked not to investigate russian involvement with Brexit and the UK GE.
I don't think it was pointless at all. The point was to weaken Europe and sow chaos. It's the Foundations of Geopolitics playbook and the hybrid warfare campaign has been such a success over the last decade that it will probably influence the next century knowing our luck.
Butbutbut the tankies told me that Foundations of Geopolitics was written by a crackpot and it didn't hold any weight with Putin and the Russian government??
Bingo. And people like Nigel Farage are still laughing all the way to the bank to this day.
Very true.
I hated Brexit when it happened and I hate it still. I knew exactly what would happen to the UK the moment it was brought to my attention, and couldn't believe it even managed to pass.
I forgot how easy it is to rile up people for a cause they're ignorant on by simply lying to their faces. It's much easier to shout along with some fucking twat screaming about how "immigrants are bad!" than it is to sit down and actually read anything established economists are publishing about the matter.
It was a complete waste of time the moment the notion was even brought up, and the regret was inevitable.
I forgot how easy it is to rile up people for a cause they're ignorant on by simply lying to their faces.
Not just lying, remember these are military psychological operations tactics being applied to the general populace. These messages, channels, and everything about it were gamed specifically to attack those who were most vulnerable to them.
Aaron Banks (now currently a Reform politican, thankfully he didn't win a seat) and Cambridge Analytica wrangled the vote with illegal campaign spending and manipulation through targeted Facebook advertising (you can tell whatever lies you like if you only tell them to people who don't question) in 2016. Then they assisted Trump in his 2016 election. Then Cambridge Analytica was disbanded, but the same people were in the background in the 2019 UK election, and again in the 2024 US election. It's all the same backers, employing the same tactics both sides of the pond - like how they accused Jeremy Corbyn of antisemitism, then shortly afterwards tried to pull the same stunt on Bernie Sanders.
"Fed up of experts"
Sums the whole thing up.
Not we question experts. Or even why are they experts. All valid questions that can be resolved one way or another.
But instead a call to glory in their own ignorance.
The biggest flaw of living in society is just how easily people are swayed to go against their own self interest.
They only do that because people are lying to them. If you limit the lies told to them by people with special interests that don't include reality, you get people that don't go against their own self interests.
Someone has to talk another person into hammering their big toe repeatedly. People figure it out on their own pretty quick. Unless they are constantly being bombarded by lies.
Nothing new, the ancient Greeks and the Romans had their fill of demagogues.
It wasn't a waste of time to a small handful of ultra wealthy people that got a touch wealthier
You should stop complaining and get back to work
Yes. What a fucking stupid waste it was for the UK.