this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
382 points (97.8% liked)

Technology

59374 readers
7113 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Google pays Apple $18B to $20B a year to keep its search in iPhone::Bernstein estimates value of agreement, warns it and similar deals may end if DoJ wins antitrust case

all 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That is a lot of money for a search engine that barely works.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It barely works because it makes a lot of money

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No, no. It makes aot of money because it barely works!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But that's how it's supposed to work, so it's working just fine? Amazing, actually.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That's what they need to pay to get people to use it.

When Google was released in the 90's they didn't have to pay anyone, everyone wanted to use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They make it work poorly so you’re more likely to click on the ads. True story.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Suddenly I don't feel at all ashamed of blocking ads. 😮

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You never were freeloader lmao

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Won't this kill Firefox? As far as I understand Google is providing a lot of funding with the default search engine agreement.

Related: https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It would definitely require a substantial effort for Mozilla to find other funding. If I were Mozilla right now I would be trying to secure other deals to act as a safety net if this ruling goes through.

That said, with Firefox being open source apart from the branding another group could pick up development if Mozilla were to somehow go under. One of the popular "spins" of Firefox could become the predominant version and could see further browser development there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It basically already has killed Firefox for normies, though. It's just taking a long time to die. Have a look at their market share over the last decade. Hopefully enough people keep using it that it stays actively developed, but that's hardly guaranteed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It only needs enough users that Google keeps paying enough to be the default search engine.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where's my 'invisible hand of the free market' guys?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

That's literally it though

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Really shows how much can be made from handling search queries doesn’t it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell, I'll spread word of mouth $75,000 a year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Welcome to a mid level sales position.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even though I use iOS devices, Google isn’t my search engine on these devices. I can understand an organization like Mozilla needing the money from Google, but when we’re talking about a trillion dollar company, I cannot have the same understanding.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like corporations would pass on literally tens of billions of dollars (yearly) just because they are big.

Unless Apple had it's own competing search service they have no reason to pass on that much money unless it becomes a huge liability.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I guess you’re right. And maybe most is their users are fine (or prefer) to use Google search, so that’s even a plus for Apple.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why?

How would iPhone users feel if Google wasn't available on their phone?