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A paper-only journal would defend against the state, but not against people you live with. A digital journal can be encrypted, but an intelligence agency could potentially gain access (like, them reading your anti-government rants that may involve violence... that sort of stuff).

So... how to defend against both threats?

(Also, I just realized, paper journals cannot really be easily backed up...)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Veracrypt hidden volume attached to an air gapped system. Unless someone kicks down the door and grabs you faster than you can click once, no one is getting at, or will realize that data exists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Could even put it on a USB drive, so killing it is as simple as yanking the USB. Hell, if the feds come sniffing, you could just toss that bitch in the microwave.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (2 children)

if you have legitimate concerns about the government coming after you, you simply do not keep a diary. At all. Not even one where you promise not to write anything incriminating.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if I have a legitimate concern. I have never attended a protest (too scared) and I never had any large online presence. I don't even show my name or face on the internet. I don't have any wikipedia pages.

So... maybe I'm just over-cautious... 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago

Starting your Wikipedia page now

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don’t have these legitimate concerns, and I STILL keep stuff like that as thoughts in my head. The only reason I’d journal my thoughts is if I eventually wanted someone to read them.

I keep my journaling for things I actually do in real life that I want to keep track of.

What is the purpose for writing it down? When you know that answer, then you look for the safest way to accomplish that purpose, which probably isn’t a diary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I tried it for a while. Going back and reading it later just made me cringe so I stopped.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some people just process these things better by forcing themselves to put them into words. Journals, for some people are not written to be read, but to be written.

I was like they in high school. Wrote out my thoughts. Lose-leaf paper in my binder with me other school stuff, so they didn't survive more than a few months. But the writing was the point. No-one was ever going to read them, not even me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Then simply write it in a text editor without saving it into a file, it'll be lost after closing the program.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unless you have a keylogger installed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True, but then you have bigger problems than just the journal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Agreed, but that was kind of the premise of the discussion, I think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are no shortage of encryption software in the market, use one, any one, Veracrypt is fine, so is million other software for this.

Use a note taking app like Joplin, Obsidian, though not open source is just as fine. Sync its data folder to the encrypted vault created with encryption software of your choice, and you are good to go

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Finally my moment to shine with incredibly niche knowledge!

Joplin, while it has the ability to encrypt the sync target (even if it's a local folder synced with syncthing) does decrypt the content in the app data folder. The notes are in an unencrypted database while all attachments just hang out in the attachment folder.

This leaves the content vulnerable if the computer is compromised. But then again, apps that keep stuff encrypted at rest still have to decrypt it to memory - leaving the content vulnerable if the computer is compromised. 🤷‍♂️

All in all, Joplin is definitively one of the great, more secure note taking apps.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A paper-only journal would defend against the state, but not against people you live with. A digital journal can be encrypted, but an intelligence agency could potentially gain access

A digital journal doesn't need to be any more government-accessible than a paper journal.

Depending on your threat model, this could require special hardware, special software, or both. In order of ease of setup, I would suggest:

  • Keep all your data on your own physical media. No cloud services, period.

  • Keep it encrypted.

  • Disable network connectivity at every level that you possibly can, such as:

    • OS level: disable wi-fi, disable blutooth, and disable networking entirely.

    • Firmware/BIOS level: If you BIOS has options to disable networking components (especially wireless ones), do that.

    • Hardware level: If your laptop has a switch to disable wi-fi, use it. If ethernet, unplug the cable. Etc.

    • Physical level: Remove any removable wireless cards or antennas.

    • Wallet level: buy a computer than never had wi-fi or bluetooth in the first place. This could mean a retro computer, or could mean using a micro-pc like some models of Raspberry Pi.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

Dedicated, airgapped (not internet connected) device with strong password.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Keep it just in your head until Elon Musk forces Neural link on everyone, then you're fucked.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

They took black mirror as an instruction manual... 😭

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Well, there aren't that many people who can read Gregg shorthand. That's more encoding than encryption though

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Write everything in digital form ... use text only because it's easier to archive, manage, organize and refer to in the future

Encrypt as much as you can and keep a copy locally and in as much safe keeping and off line as much as possible whenever and however you can.

I wouldn't worry about having the state come after you and use the information against you ... or worry too much about intelligence agencies cracking your encryption and reading all your writing .... really .. who cares because if the state does want to come after you, they wouldn't care what evidence was available ... a journal might make their case easier but in the long run, they wouldn't care any way.

I would think about the journal and writing from an archival point of view. You're not writing and creating all that content for yourself ... you're writing and creating it for future generations to see and read. Sure, it might get destroyed or erased ... but it also might have a chance of being stored, shared, archived and rediscovered in the future. It would be like reading journals and content written by people before the first or second world wars and historians would gain a valuable insight into the minds of people during our time period. The information we produce now doesn't matter much to anyone right now whether for good or bad reasons ... the information we create now will mean so much more to people far into the future.

So go ahead .... write, write often and write as much as you can ... the more you write, the more you leave behind for someone in the future to find.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A physical journal written in a secret code

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

This was my first thought as well. The code doesn't even have to be very secretive to beat most people from figuring it out. Torture would be the only way and it still would have plausible deniability.

So eventually no decipherable, nor understandable decryption easily succeeds. (The previous sentence has a secret message.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ontop of the various good suggestions already mentioned you could also keep your choice of medium in a safe

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Make sure it's fireproof though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Typewriter with UV reactive ink would stop a cursory local glance, and could start a new hobby.

Edit: the old ribbon could be used as a backup.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Write a paper journal and when there are sensitive stories write them in a cypher only you know the key to?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Digital with strong encryption, and protect the device so that it can't be copied while unlocked. You're probably not so important that they'd target you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Security only works if you use it before you become a target.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You’re probably not so important that they’d target you.

Not actively, of course. I'm talking about when the authorities one day want to retroactively dig through stuff to find dirt.

The threat would be that they do a targeted attack on my devices and monitor for 72 hours, recording everything happening in my device, before they apprehend me.

(Not that the lack of evidence would stop them from trying, but the less info they get, the better chance I have)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

If they're on your device, you've already lost. To protect against that, you'd have to keep an offline device, either physical or digital. Digital encrypted, physical in a made-up language and script that only you know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

If you're just worried about people you live with and passive scan type stuff I'd do a LUKS flash drive and a txt file. If you are worried about more active stuff from 3 letters then I still think digital is going to be the best bet, but you'd better use qubes or even dedicate an airgapped computer with an encrypted drive but even that is iffy for a serious anti gov threat model.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

When I was a teen it wasn't the government I was afraid of, but digital devices were just as likely to be read as paper. What I did was keep anything I needed to be private at school, work, a friend's. Is any of that an option? Would a super old laptop with a fresh OS that you never connect to the internet be safe in your home?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Either in a locked FOSS program like Trilium or a physical notebook. I censor myself more in the physical notebook but also I write a ton of random thoughts in it so the chances of them reading a political thought surrounded by 100s of daily to dos and random server thoughts is low.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Paper jounal may not be backable up, but they are not affected by bit rot, cannot be tracked or detected by any means, they are partially or totally destroyable, and helps freeing the pressuring throughts from your head, so you would be less vulnerable under torture.

Also, one can log what you type on a device even before it is encrypted (if we assume the worst scenario). So i think keeping a paper diary, even with the comfort flaws, stay the safest option (if you hide it well and doesn’t reveal its existence).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Digitally create an encryption method. Hand write the journal using that encryption method

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah let me just do some AES in my head real quick

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Wasn't saying it'd be easy, just that it'd work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Can you keep the paper journal in a locked drawer? Will your homies seriously try to break in or pick the lock? Could you use a non-networked computer (old laptop) to encrypt the files, and lock that in a drawer?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Use TAILS on a USB drive, and keep the USB drive somewhere nobody would think of looking. Underneath the tissues in an open box, buried in a jar outside, or just on a keyring unless you're worried about being taken in yourself

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So here's the thing.

My country is being taken over by fascists.

Economy is already fucked up before the fascists took control, now the economy is even worse. Cost of living is too high. Moving out is not an option. It's either shitty toxic family, or some random strangers as roommates (I have no friends) in order to split the cost of rent, like it's literally impossible afford to rent alone. People are getting fired all the time, any small issue with income would mean being homeless, and that would guarantee ending up snatched by the gestapo.

There is no choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

veracrypt then

a hidden volume with at least one backUp ☞ https://www.veracrypt.fr/en/Hidden%20Volume.html