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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide

Nazi Germany's inspiration was seeing the 'liberal democratic' world's response to this.

The only reason they didn't get away with it even though according to western 'liberal' world it is okay to do that to your own citizens is because Germany tried to implement the model in other countries.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What's the historical context? Like is Nazi Germany copying the restrictions put on after WW1?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Nazis got a lot of their ideas from the US, including lebensraum from Manifest Destiny.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also the popularity of eugenics began in the US. You even read about it in The Great Gatsby.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

It began in England. Out of Darwinism. Once people had to accept that the Ancient Greek philosophies of “the ideal form” couldn’t exist. (Because of evolution, everything is always evolving) But you could use Darwin and Mendel and genetics to engineer the biology you preferred.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Also, unlimited executive power for the top dog

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That doesn't seem right. Expansionism started way before that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hitler explicitly referred to US expansionism when discussing lebensraum.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

A U.S. Supreme Court case on sterilization was cited by the defense at the Nuremberg Trials: Buck v. Bell.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Nazis praised the US's "scientific" approach to racism and eugenics.

Measuring people's heads; IQ tests served in a person's non-native language and relied on specific knowledge of American culture; Plain old racist rhetoric like calling people "dangerous", "criminals" with no evidence. (Sound familiar?)

Anything to prove that black and foreign people were inferior and should be exploited, in a classic "we know the answer and we must cherry pick the data to reach that conclusion".

A lot of these tools were taken up by the Nazis for their persecution of Jews, and now they're coming right back around.

This is an educated meme.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hitler sent a certain Dr Mengele to study at the Carnegie Institution to learn about the 'Nordic Race'.
Why is it always the philanthropists?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

they become philanthropists to assuage their guilt?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

That is giving them too much credit.
It is no more than a cover for doing more horrible things.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago

No one... The paradox is about to collapse upon itself.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No no no. We are currently blaming China, or was it Ukraine? Idk I can't keep up who America is blaming for its own faults.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump is blaming our own citizens (the ones that didn't vote for him). Is everyone not aware we are his number one target?

It's not a secret.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago