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[–] [email protected] 110 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Democrats so afraid of being wrong they don't even try to do what's right.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

That's not their purpose, they just need to look the part. They are comfortable in the 'my hands are tied' position. They can propose bills they know will not make it. When they have a supermajority, like they had not long ago, they are in trouble. They have no choice but to stop proposing bills and find reasons to say they are 'sabotaged'. They played this game for centuries, still works.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They in this case being libs in liberal democracies, not democrats specifically.

One way to resolve the contradiction between the capitalist class, which the state represents, and the masses, whom the state requires to maintain power is for the masses to believe their representatives want what's best for them, but are powerless to implement it due to foreigners or nature or some other group, or are trying and it will happen some indeterminate time in the future.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

What's this today? Been in the fediverse for barely 2 weeks only to be dissapointed by the same manufactured consent from its users (minus the bots).
All of a sudden I see anti-capitalist posts and based comments.
The 'libs' in Europe would be the shamelessly named socialist parties.
Invariably being horrible and keeping the status quo with only difference that they now and then throw a bone to the beloved working class and have their larping day on the 1st of may, sing the internationale like they mean it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

You're on .world. It leans right-wing, essentially trying to be reddit 2 and having de-federated from the explicitly Marxist-Leninist lemmygrad.ml and Communist/Anarchist hexbear.net

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You're on .world. You're gonna see Reddit libs first and foremost

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

And nothing from lemmygrad since .world defederated from it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Blue conservatives

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's just theatrics. They are as conservative as the Republicans.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

They are not afraid of being wrong. They don't actually care about your well being, they are just here to make money for their corporate friends and themselves.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You misunderstand their incentives. They're beholden to the billionaires, not to you.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Really though, beyond the Dems doing something legislatively, could you imagine if the party actually utilized it's network for direct action campaigns. Not that their donors or upper middle class members would be copacetic to any actual economic disruption. I mean christ, the Senate leader doesn't even want to let the Republicans shut down the government while they're busy dismantling it. Their current strategy is to appeal by saying they can bring back business as usual. Unfortunately they don't seem to understand that appearing ineffectual turns centrists off even more than appearing radical does.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (32 children)

Unfortunately they don’t seem to understand that appearing ineffectual turns centrists off even more than appearing radical does.

Does it though?

Look at how much .world or reddit downvote and deride posts critical of Democrat behavior since the beginning on the election and the only takeaway you can get is that they're in onboard with it no matter how much they hate it simply because Republicans are worse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ok, but that's a select group of people who choose to spend their free time typing about politics online. If you look at the actual election results, it would appear to back up the claim you're quoting.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I always like to point out how there's art of these two characters fucking by the same author

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

2800375 on furry msg site

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"You have to understand there's only so much I can do in this position"

Meanwhile, one of their former members named Huey Long: "Now I dynamite 'em out of my path"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (60 children)

I mean, I was super curious what Sanders could've done if he had the chance. Instead, we got the opposite experiment.

If democrats in the US vote for stuff like Biden, then they're not voting for any radical change. Trump isn't comparable to that.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans voted for Biden because the primary system heavily favored Biden and Americans were told Biden was "more electable" than Bernie, even though every one of Bernie's policies and his messaging polled better.

If the DNC didn't put their thumbs on the scale, Bernie would have won in 2016 (or 2020), and guaranteed a democratic victory in the next election because nobody receiving free healthcare is going to vote to go back to the current system.

Bernie isn't radical, he's a social democrat, he just looks radical because the democrats are right of George W Bush right now.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

I still remember the full-on panic mode people were in when it looked like Bernie might clinch the nomination in 2020. So absurd, but that's what happens when the ruling class is afraid that they might have to pay higher taxes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If democrats in the US vote for stuff like Biden, then they’re not voting for any radical change

I don't exactly know the details, but weren't there accusations of meddling from the DNC that stoppered Sanders' chance of securing the nomination, and a belief among some that he might have won the nomination if it had been a free and fair primary process?

In other words, it's possible (though by no means certain) that your sentence above works if "democrats" means "the DNC and the establishment of the Democratic Party", but not if it means "people who by-and-large support the Democratic Party".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

The Dems did some delegate fuckery where all candidates endorsed Biden because ~~Bernie~~ Trump had to be stopped at all cost, and their delegates went to Biden even if he hadn't been voted for. Kamala contributed all of her 0 delegates and got VP for being ~~a cop~~ the first to drop out iirc.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yall been taking the bait for years. Dems succeed on your fears. Why would they eliminate them?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And the Dems will help the GOP do it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In the words of filmmaker Michael Moore, who predicted Trump would win in 2016:

Liberals are like, What should we do about dinner? Umm, we could go out. Do you want to go out? Well, if you do. Okay, where should we go? I dunno, where do you wanna go?

Conservatives are like BAM! [slaps hand on table] Get in the car, we're goin' to the Sizzler!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

ChEcKs AnD bAlAnCeS

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

The Republican wishes he had this long trunk

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the second time Donald Trump has been elected with full control of both the House and Senate. It is not surprising that an old man in the same scenario would behave the same.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The comic is mocking the democrats for spending the last 4 years pretending they were completely powerless, just like they did in the 4 years leading to Trump pt I. The US president is one of the most powerful executives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

or a marxist. weve been through this shit before.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's funny to me how often we (I've been guilty of this) look at satire and think how amazingly they predicted the future, when they were really just commenting on their present and maybe extrapolating a little bit.

I wonder if Wag the Dog nearly mirroring the Clinton–Lewinsky scandal one month later counts.

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