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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

How long until we start getting super censored internet?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Already done.

Social media is basically the internet for most of the population, and the biggest ones by far (Meta, Timtok) prostrated themselves.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Already done" it was when most people were on social media. It's a self-supporting censorship machine requiring no government intervention. Censorship is usually defined as government censorship, and a private business on their platform has right to do whatever they want about speech. And that's fine when those private businesses are physical diners, rented spaces for events and so on. But if there were 2 or 3 owners of all the spaces you can rent to have a meeting, and those would have policy on speech, you'd have effective non-governmental censorship IRL. Same with the Internet.

Then platform owners do that censorship simply because they can and it's convenient too.

Whatever governments order them comes much later and doesn't change much. We already have censorship for 10-15 years, affecting all we do.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thank you.

The problem isn't that Meta and X and TikTok censor content...it never has been...that's entirely within their rights, as businesses, to do.

The problem is that these 2-3 companies, run by 2-3 people with strong political allegiances and bottomless pocketbooks, control nearly every beer hall, Elks Lodge, KoC, and corner-grocer corkboard, in the world.

One of the biggest ways our government failed us was by letting these companies get so damn big and influencial.

The founders, while themselves wealthy slave-owning pieces of shit, did have some good ideas...but I don't think they ever expected there to be just a couple of unelected private businessmen in charge of every soapbox in the country.

Oh, and also all of the press. Not them, but a different small handful of unelected private businessmen. Obviously they expected private ownership of the press. That's somewhat of a necessity....but the level of consolidation is absurd.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

control nearly every beer hall

I do nazi any problems with this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I certainly fucking do at the VFW

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was making a dark joke about how the nazis took over beer halls, culminating in the Beer Hall Putsch, which is what I think OP was referring to

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I caught that after I posted and I agree, my statement stands though, it’s wicked depressing to have so many relatives who wore the uniform and are apparently not opposed to fascism and drunken conversations with folks in the beer hall can lead to that poison spreading

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was hoping musks cringy-ass post had killed off the shitty Nazi puns but here we are. Lemmy is more reddit every day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Making jokes about Nazis is antifascist praxis.

Also: We joined Lemmy about a year apart, but I was on Kbin before that, so if anyone is making it like Reddit it's the jerk complaining about a joke.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe if the Nazis are the butt of the joke. That's not the case here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Keep on Zuckin'

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's already starting on social media

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah, but I mean things like fediverse banned, web archive and Wikipedia blocked, liberal news outlets blocked, etc.

I give it another year or two, tops, but I feel like it's coming.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You think anyone in the Trump administration knows about Lemmy. I feel like they hardly even knew about Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

pretty sure truth social came from the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's a Mastodon fork.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I have a Facebook page where I posted lots of links to peertube videos. I get an error each time I post another peertube video and the thumbnails don’t show up anymore.

They’re already banning fediverse content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Facebook was taking down links talking about Linux as cybersecurity risks a week or so ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

They can try, but its hard to band stuff that's decentralized like that. All they realistically could do is prevent companies and organizations based in the us from federating, or federating with anything outside.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

last year when a number of states started to effectively ban adult content.

-You could also argue it happened a lot sooner over a decade back when every high traffic website started transforming into a walled garden.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

Hiding info about Japanese interment camps

Why would they need to do that hmmmmmnmmn

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

They want you to forget what they did so they can do it again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can you post the actual info and not a Facebook link?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Simple, next Wednesday the 5th you go protest at your downtown. Everyone in the country hopefully. If this doesn't happen, at least the response we get might get some views. I assume it won't be a happy encounter in Republican States. But then there may not be any encounter there at all. But this is it. This is the chance before online organization becomes illegal or whatever they do about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

The sad part is, even if the next government is going to be more open-minded again, it is doubtful whether they'd want to spend the effort to reintroduce all of the content, solutions etc.