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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did. --FTFY

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When a writer copies someone else's work without cites or compensation, it's called "plagiarism." But when an AI does it, it's called "LLM training."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Unless that AI is not OpenAI, then it's "plagiarism" still.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

When a reader reads someone else’s work that’s called “reading”. But when an AI does it, it’s called “training”.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

OMG Competition!

QUICK, they're a foreign threat! They're coming right for us!!!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the fuck is Microsoft getting involved for?! Maybe concentrate on not providing shitty fucking software fuck heads!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Oh fair, i didnt know that. But still, fuck Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Stealing from thieves isn't a crime.

Especially not when China turns around and Robin Hoods it back to the world.

Just saying.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

China really did one on our oligarchs haha

Beautiful

These parasites expect me to side with them?

[–] [email protected] 245 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago

An irony curtain.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago

What data? they one OpenAI illegally obtained first?!

[–] [email protected] 151 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Chinese company:

Truly, you have a dizzling intellect.

Microsoft:

AND IM JUST GETTING STARTED! Where was I?

Chinese company:

Stealing data....

[–] [email protected] 171 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What, you mean like Microsoft, uh, OpenAI did?

[–] [email protected] 120 points 2 days ago

Yep, NOW it's a problem, though! Because it's someone else doing the same thing, someone who isn't part of the human centipede starting at Trump's colon.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (4 children)

“You can’t steal that public data! We stole it first!”

And considering that’s exactly what Microsoft did to Apple with point and click, what irony!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They didn’t steal it from Smith & Wesson?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They both stole point and click from Xerox if my memory serves me correctly

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apple did pay Xerox for it if I'm remembering right

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yep, Apple paid with shares (More specifically, the right to buy $1 million dollars worth at the initial share price) which, according to a share calculator I just tried, would be worth nearly $328 million these days, I wonder if Xerox kept them or offloaded them early.

Considering Xerox was utterly uninterested in any of the tech they had, it's worked out well.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yeah xerox invented the GUI and mouse

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually, it was invented by Douglas Engelbart in Stanford in the 60s

https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/162/000/

Xerox (re)made it for the PC in the 80s.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol its like fucking lavrov from fucking russia screaming "this is against international law" when Europe froze their assets.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Bro... US reaction here is so pathetic...

The behavior is indicative of a bigger issue. They really do think only they are allowed to cheat and steal to win lol

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What’s the game plan if they did?

Trade restrictions?

China already proved those did fuck all to stop them from developing their own model.

Ducking knew this ai bubble would burst sooner or later, just glad we can finally get on with it now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I ducking knew it too, I've been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they're actually useful.

This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.

As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We're definitely 2 different people. Lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
  1. Name the company involved a military asset
  2. Forbid US companies from hosting the models
  3. Pressure foreign companies to not work with them
[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You mean they ripped off the copyrighted material that OpenAI ripped off?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago

we stole it fair and square

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Somebody better call the WAHMBULANCE!

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s no crime to steal from a thief.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Are they worried that deepsink too stuff written by others, mixed it up, and repackaged it as it's own?

Well, yeah, that's all AI is. An expensive weighted pachinko machine, that uses human made content, and remixes it.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

If I stole from the thief, is it really stealing?

  • some Philosopher probably
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’m sure now that OpenAI accuses DeepSeek of stealing they will now prove that they have rights to things that are being stolen, right? XD

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

So that means that Microsoft will pay compensation to us, right?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

When you can't beat em, sue em. It's the American way.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

Time to talk about data rights :)

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