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As an American, I would support such a ban. the rest of the world shouldn't be subjected to American social media.

I am so tempted, so tempted to write yes. But no, at the end of the day, I don't think speech should be regulated like that. If we as a society don't learn to distinguish truth from bullshit, democracy can't survive.

EU absolutely is a country.

Also, fuck you.

Not a blanket ban no, but if they constantly break our laws then yes. And I'm perfectly ok with laws that some would decry as censorship (anti-hate-speech, fact-checking) or claim makes business impossible (strict interpretations of GDPR).

No I would not.

There is a Paradox of Tolerance that essentially says that if you are tolerant of the intolerant, all tolerance will eventually be overrun.

This is what's currently happening in the USA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

I don't think that banning them is going to fix anything, but sanctions for not controlling the platform and prosecuting and punishing perpetrators is going to make an impact felt way beyond simply banning a platform.

Being in a civil society requires effort. So far the effort in curtailing the extremism embodied by USA social media has been incidental at best.

I heard there is talk of a projects for the EU to increase its digital sovereignty. Now would be a great time for those projects to come to fruition.

As for me, if this means that there'll be an EU-wide reboot of Hyves, I'd be thrilled. Extra so if, on the back-end, it works on a Federated system.

Fuck no. The Americans provide 90% of our entertainment and they're actually fun people to interact with and chat with (the ones that aren't wearing MAGA hats that is). What am I gonna go without Americans on social media? Talk about fucking Table Mountain? Join the Europeans in looking down on the USA for everything and always acting like their own shit doesn't stink?

Fuck that, I'd start using VPNs.

No

As an American please say yes. Because apparently they are all nazis now.

I wouldn't support it because I don't like censorship.

I didn't use to, and I am generally against limiting access to any sort of source of information. But the last few years have convinced me otherwise - the owners of these platforms are willing to destroy our way of life for their own personal benefit. Fuck Zuck. Fuck Musk. Fuck all of these charlatans and conmen.

Edit: oh, and the EU isn't a country (yet), it's a supranational organization which presents unique challenges in terms of policy. Def not a country

Disclaimer: I am American, but just want to point out the problem with any proposed censorship:

So y'all know VPNs exist right?

Like, look at the red states here in the US, they just bypass the "Age Verification" with VPNs.

So what's the point?

Are y'all banning VPNs too?

Doesn't that feel similar to umm...

People's Republic of China and the "Great Firewall"?

Are y'all sure that's the future y'all wanna have?

I am American so I can't really answer but what would count as American social media?

I feel like it would be most large social network sites and an unpredictable amount of smaller ones

absolutely. here's the petition for EU: https://www.ban-x-in.eu/

No, not if they follow our laws. That being said I don't use much social media.

Nope

As a Brazilian, yes. I doubt anything halfway decent would show up instead, which probably sounds better

100% yes. They have shown time and time again to do whatever the fuck they like with no regard to laws.

No. How much shit do we need to ban before you dumb fucks understand prohibition never fucking works and only fuels more crime.

Twitter: yes 1000 percent. Meta: businesses, landlords and social workers communicate via whatsapp here so I'd prefer bigger fines and more pressure on meta.

Yes, I use signal messenger, but I also quite literally need WhatsApp unfortunately.

Chilean here, yes.

I don't know, but I really would like to see country specific social media.

ON or IN ? It changes the meaning significantly.