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Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit... anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I'm sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don't even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren't gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I'm not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I'm specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 minutes ago

i currently use tuta. it has a free tier, offers encryption, is open source, gdpr-compliant, and is 100% powered by green energy.

i have used mailbox in the past, which is paid (cheapest tier is ~€12/yr). i can recommend it as well.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not that many people use email much anymore

Where do you live, because I want to go there immediately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

IDK, what else do they use? Email has to be the least bad option. At least with email you can choose your provider (or be your own).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Any of the dozens of federated chat services.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

tutanota is pretty good

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I'm currently using Migadu. It's $20/year for their cheapest plan. They give you a lot of control over the email service, so it might not be the best if you're a noob. In fact, they require you bring a domain name. But, they let you create unlimited users, aliases, have fancy routing, etc.

https://purelymail.com/ looks interesting too. And is cheaper at $10/year.

If you do decide to get a custom domain, just some tips:

  • get something that ends in .net or even better .com because shitty companies with shitty IT departments will block other TLDs (I've had this happen with FedEx and my local garbage company). There is no spam folder for them, the email just explodes.
  • probably don't pick a domain with one of your names it in for better anonymity, unless I guess you have a popular last name? [email protected] looks cool, but consider if you want random sites like lemmy to have that data.
  • don't pick a homophone or weird word because at some point you'll have to speak your email to another human and it's really awkward to tell your bank that your email is [email protected] or [email protected] or was it [email protected]?

Also, the web interfaces of some of these other email services might not be as good as Gmail's UI. It helps to use an email client instead. Thunderbird is fine or you could use something simpler like claws-mail or even something like mutt.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Riseup.net Private, free, encrypted

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Invite-only and no clear way to get said invites

[–] [email protected] 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The ProtonMail CEO recently said that Trump "fights for the little guy". I know that's not a substantial critique of their privacy policy or encryption standards, but I wouldn't trust a company that says something so baseless, divisive, and in support of a fascist oligarch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

Honestly, I know this is entirely subjective, but I never liked the vibes from proton especially in the last year. I’m going to use my animal instincts and just avoid them.

That said, I really need new email service so looking at options

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Disroot - A lot of people in the know about privacy seem to really like it.

Really though email is a bullshit communication medium and unless you're insisting on using GPG for every message and make sure your or other people's keys never got compromised I wouldn't rely on it.

Really hoping Dark Mail actually becomes a thing at some point. If it was that with locally stored encrypted email then email might actually be worth bothering with.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 15 hours ago (19 children)

Most if not all non-paid options will have privacy concerns similar to gmail, so you’ll have to pay. I pay for Proton, and though I’m not thrilled about some of the political bullshit their CEO has been up to recently, I think I’ll stay with them for now since they’re still good for privacy, and their other services are solid. They’re also very upfront about what they charge and why, and I think they still plan to transition to a non-profit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 14 hours ago

There's also Tuta if you're looking for an alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

proton.

Proton unlimited comes with unlimited everything on proton pass, including disposable email addresses

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

unlimited everything is not really true: storage for example

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Proton have shown recently they are very much pro-cop and pro-trump and so aren't that private or worthwhile any more.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago

I've been a Proton customer for over 4 years and I'm leaving because of this. Don't use Proton.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Who's not using email? I'm green with envy, but I think it's a ludicrous premise to think not many people are using email.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

i don't use email much at all, only signups at a few places.

at work, communications with my coworker or clients is by phone or in person, not email or very rarely sms. email is mainly the required communications with the state (business registrations, taxes and shit) and invoices and receipts for things we use or buy online. plus lots of spam. lots and lots of spam. oh, and scams. lots of scammers and phishers too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

I also wondered what kind of rock OP lives under. I use email every day, multiple times per day. I probably send more emails than texts.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I use proton and for registering on different sites I usually use addy.io. Also, I recently found a new mail service that looks nice and might give it a try soon, disroot.org

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

ProtonPass will also generate aliases and forward the mail to your email account. But, as someone else mentioned, the CEO's politics seem sus.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I use Fastmail with my own domain. Not free, but worth it given how much I rely on my email/calendar. There's a 30-day free trial before committing though, so you can kick the tires before deciding.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago

I second this. Fastmail has been a joy to use. Since the users are paying, the company has (less) incentives to enshittify. JMAP? Count me in!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I use Tuta mail. It is entirely open source. There are both paid and free tiers. I started on a paid tier, then downgraded to free. I like the option of a usable free tier when money is tight. I use addy.io for aliases.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How do you use email aliases or what do you find them useful for? I've played around with generating unique aliases for different websites I use, but I'm not sure I did anything useful with that setup. Normally, if I get spam I usually just hit the unsubscribe link and that's been sufficient. Currently, I just have 2 emails: one I use for businesses and such and one for random websites that I don't care too much about. Is having more aliases better?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

An alias can be used to see who is selling your address. If you give address B to only one organization and you get spam on B, then you know B sold your address.

Not exactly the most useful information, but it's there.

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