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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/52638736

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Replace the plastic blades with sharpened metal ones, and you got yourself an anti-personnel terrorism machine.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

DJI voluntarily created its geofencing feature, so it makes a certain degree of sense that the company would get rid of it now that the US government no longer seems to appreciate its help, is blocking some of its drone imports, calls DJI a “Chinese Military Company,” and has started the countdown clock on a de facto import ban.

That sounds exactly like how Trump does business, tit for tat and quid pro quos.. thats also why Zuck is acting out - gonna be a wild 4 years

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

You mispelled depressing. For some reason you spelled it as "wild".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 minutes ago

He also mispelled forever. For some reason he spelled it as "4 years".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They were about the only hobbyist level drone manufacturer that was doing any sort of geofencing at all. Unsurprising they stopped when none of the other companies saw repercussions for not doing it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

They're the only hobbyist manufacturer with any scale. If you look at the Dedrone stats it's just entirely the DJI show followed by AUTEL by a mile and then DIY stuff. The DIY drones can be built from anything and can be trivially designed to avoid surveillance so you're not gonna get anywhere with them anyway.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

So, just like how pretty much every other drone manufacturers drones already work. Somehow people only give DJI shit over this and develop a curious blind spot about everybody else.

It is trivially easy for anyone with thumbs to kit-build a drone with no regulatory compliance whatsoever, in nearly any size, with absurd range and capabilities, for just a few hundred dollars. Despite that state of affairs having been the case for years, this has mysteriously failed to cause the Earth to fall out of its orbit into the sun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)
  1. so what if no other manufacturers do it? Maybe they should be forced to.

  2. the hyperbole at the end of your comment is not necessary or helpful. We literally just saw a drone ground a firefighting plane in Los Angeles, so we know they can cause major problems at the worst possible times. Maybe it's not a big deal on an everyday basis, but in disasters like the Los Angeles Fires of course more idiot content creators than usual are going to have their drone in the air collecting footage.

  3. more and more people are getting drones so there are only going to be more and more problems as they grow in popularity.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

IDK, most of the kits require soldering (because the industry is fundamentally braindead) and if you go look at the various online communities, you'll quickly see that this is one hell of a filter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We were taught that at high school....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

Same here, but I'd still be pretty annoyed if I had to do it to put together a drone, it's a pain in the ass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

I find it interesting more than anything else.

In high school electronics we also used a tesla coil (that can kill you if you touch the wrong place) so they disconnected the mains cord so it had to be rewired prior to use to keep us safer.

They taught us how to wire plugs the following week...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

i'm scared of the magic cancer smoke

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Just get the lead free solder and no clean flux, it's much less cancer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah lead free solder is perfectly fine.

Where I live, lead solder is even illegal to sell and buy unless you have a permit which is impossible to get for individuals

[–] [email protected] 2 points 35 minutes ago

Interesting, I haven't heard about that.

For systems that...may experience some degree of vacuum...it's common to use lead solder still because it doesn't tin whisker so unfortunately it's still around for some of the stuff I've worked on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Oh 100% magic. And SMT hot air soldering is voodoo magic

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You know, they've been dropping a lot of ordinance with cobbled together drones in Ukraine. Just sayin, for no reason in particular reason.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg will be sitting together at Trump's inauguration. This also is a comment that I felt like making for no particular reason.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

(╭☞´ิ∀´ิ)╭☞

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I heard once that people can make improvised explosive contraptions in their own houses.

I just wanted to share a random unrelated fact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Smoke alarms contain small quantities of radioactive material. You can also bulk buy smoke alarms on Amazon. You can also buy hazmat suits on Amazon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

Some of them do, photoelectric ones don't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This will last exactly as long as it takes somebody to fly a drone into the side of the White House. Not any kind of special drone, just some idiot trying to get a cool shot for their YouTube channel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We might get a video of the white house's defence systems shooting it down instead.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I've done some work related to the anti drone systems and I assure you even the best of the best is an absolute joke against all but the most naive operator. The ultimate drone defense right now is somewhere between magnum #6 bird and #4 turkey shot :/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If said work was more than a year ago then it is significantly outdated.

Watch perun's videos covering drone warfare in Ukraine it gives a good overview of what has been tried and its effective.

The us government absolutely can shoot down a couple hundred dollar drone its just a matter of if they need to use a half a million dollar intercepted to do it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ah a fellow perun addict.

Honestly I think he oversold the effectiveness of the systems. The work I did is still ongoing so I'm up to speed on the available systems, though mostly on the RF side. If you watch the stuff coming out of Ukraine the drones aren't really being impeded all that much and if you know how to use ardupilot and selectively enable your data link you can pretty much get away with whatever you want because the US isn't gonna allow anyone to jam GPS right next to multiple major airports. If you want to avoid even relying on GPS there are starting to be mature solutions out there too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

Ahh I'm sorry for doubting you.

I was under the impression argument for the drones not being impeded in Ukraine was an economic one.

Civdiv on yt has some very interesting content on the subject.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Automated #4 Turkey Turrets with AI tracking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Only if you unnecessarily include a ChatGPT voice assistant

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Unidentified Drone - identify yourself or we will shoot you down with feathers!

/operator/ feathers? Dammit, is there even a drone there or is that also a hallucination.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

DJI pilots are either very skilled professionals or inconsiderate wannabe photographers. Freestyle quad pilots rule.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah the FPV community is way better because they actually have to know what they're doing mostly. They're mildly noncompliant but only regarding the regs that shouldn't apply to the size of stuff they fly; RID, registration, and BVLOS don't make sense for airframes lighter than a goose. They tend to avoid other people because they understand the public is wary of drones and they're wary of Karens and untrained cops. They put far more hours on their airframes than any of the other amateur operators but every single time I've been near a drone doing something dangerous, stupid, or annoying it was a DJI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yup. Of course there are some risky fpv pilots but it’s always a DJI user, I won’t even call them pilot, that’s doing something stupid and/or dangerous and ends up on the news.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

I don’t see how this could go wrong…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

“We’re looking to expand into the terrorist market. We see it as a growth industry given the mounting civil unrest all over the world.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Ah they want a US military contract.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago