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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can you also post: 'Kill all the CEOs" or "We need more Luigis" or will that not fall under free speech Mr Suckitberg?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Those get you deboosted, or even banned.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 6 days ago

It's always the same "free speech" they're being censored for

[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Private entities have the right to decide what is or is not acceptable content on their platforms. Consumers also have the right to choose which services they want to use.

I encourage everyone to stop using anything involved with Meta. I personally have a list of Meta domains blocked on my home network.

If enough people did this, the problem would resolve itself.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

This is why its important for us to retain the right to what Cory Doctorow calls "self-help".

Our right to access and modify things are being stripped away and that gives the platforms even more power!

Today, if you released a tool to bring your Facebook friend list to another platform you'd get sued into oblivion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

*in the usa

In other places content moderation for major platforms is mandatory as a way to protect free speech and reduce the spread of disinformation.

Although some consider this censorship, a free for all with a power imbalance is not a good thing for society

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Only problem is that the echo chamber gets louder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

The people in the echo chamber seem to actually enjoy yelling at people outside of it, though. So it's not as enjoyable for them either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

The people I know are too addicted to quit. They need to leave for another platform like people did with x to blue sky… that’s the only way I see people getting out of the meta world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Private entities have the right to decide what is or is not acceptable content on their platforms

Exactly. Not sure why people have this expectation that facebook is some kind of serious platform that should be held to some high journalistic standard

It was a website for rating girls. It's always been a joke website. People should be free to post whatever offensive and non-factual nonsense they want there (and its related subsidiaries)

If your entire life is so deeply entwined with facebook that you cant leave, and you demand that they only allow nice content, that's a YOU problem.

This is not a defense of facebook. This is me saying facebook is shit, it's ALWAYS been shit. Just walk away

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Bingo, my friend!!! Shun Meta and all their 'products' completely and permanently.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How about "billionaires are edible" or "Tech bros are welfare queens" or "Watch out for a-luigi"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

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nevermind

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What's crazy to me is just how inconsistent it is. You can call a group of people trash and that's okay, but calling them vermin isn't?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wonder how far you can take insulting CEOs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Credible burn probably

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Look on the bright side: they're saying these things under their legal names. You'll know who they are and where they live.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

they’re saying these things under their legal names

Facebook has plenty of promotional accounts, stale accounts hijacked by scammers, and straight up fake accounts. Hell, Meta's been premiering entirely AI generated profiles.

You could be getting N-bombed by a fully automated synthetic personality before too long.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

True, but also, there will be plenty of morons that just openly reveal who they are on their Facebook timeline. That's still useful.

Although being called slurs by a chatbot will probably just make people stop using Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Trans people are immortal?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago

How to live forever with this simple trick!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I'm feeling a little trans today.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

All of these news agencies are against this rule? Yet they keep posting and putting the offensive sentence right in the headline lol. That's only spreading the message

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Leaked? They're on their official "hateful conduct" guidelines

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Can I also say, that Trumpist are fundamentalist Christian snowflakes, who don't even know what their own fucking holy book is saying?

I guess, the field is leveled?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Some of the text said that saying “white people have mental illness” would be prohibited on Facebook, but saying “gay people have mental illness” was allowed, they said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/technology/meta-mark-zuckerberg-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.oE4.veB1.WXyo_KpVrwo5

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

No, that's hate speech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Facebook was blocking posts with lemmy.world urls in a group admin chat the other day.

It also was removing content it didn't like. But we were trying to discuss a DM someone received from another member. So they were allowing one user to call another a "gay ass bitch" but we couldn't discuss it as admins.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'll leak my policy: unless it's clearly in an ironic sense, if I spot any of those examples here on the Fediverse, I will report them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Eh, I'd say you've almost got it but not quite.

I wouldn't tolerate it in any sense, "ironic" or not.

Too many people are too stupid to determine irony from a serious statement, and just assume the "irony" is a legitimate support of their shitty opinions.

No tolerance at all is required, because we don't want to confuse anyone into thinking that maybe that crap is remotely acceptable here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm expecting people here to be smart, respectful and use their brain.

First, hate and bigotry are not to be tolerated. Second, context also matters in language in addition to words. Third, it's also important to acknowledge that we are people with ingrained biases too, in order to tackle more subtle and casual forms of it. If people can demonstrate an understanding and willingness to give up their precognitions and learn from mistakes, they don't have to be kicked out on the spot. Trolls with a pattern of abusing or playing borderline with the rules have clear context outside of the thread that they aren't genuinely engaging and aren't welcome until they drop that behaviour. Lastly, the community where the discussion happens (a shitpost community, a community made for a specific group, a news community etc.) should also be considered. Every example from the document is demeaning, bigoted, and inappropriate within that scenario.

With all due respect, I think most users can recognize when people mean well or not, while still being impassioned over a discussion. If one is genuinely confused, we can afford the opportunity for them to learn.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mark Zuckerberg is Trash! Billionaires are immoral!

Fact check that shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Enough fact checking and arguing with their bullshit. It's obviously all lies and nonsense they spew, it's time to just dispose of them and start over.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anyone else like me—who is not a Facebook/Instagram user—learning for the first time that these things could not be said before?

Don’t get me wrong, I was taught better than that and anyone who says this stuff is a loser. Just never knew before this story that those posts/comments were blocked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah that’s me. Back when I used Facebook you could say whatever the hell you wanted, and I thought and still think that’s how it should be.

For some reason this is now an unpopular opinion? What do I care if someone posts mean things? That’s life, people say mean shit all the time. We trying to stop that??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Are free to, and in fact encouraged, ...