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the last jedi is a top 3 star wars movie

id put it right above empire, with rots as number 1

I'm old, so I'd say: the Ewoks were jumping the sharks

My take on Star Wars is that it is about as bad as SciFi can get. It is a Grimm fairy tale from someone who has read Dune without understanding it and the skills to pull it through.

I loved everything about the force awakens, but I will never forget the emptiness and depression I felt leaving theater after seeing the last Jedi. I know its from a place of privilege that I can feel this way, but I never had another piece of fiction hurt me so badly. I grew up deep into the EU and games and it was my way to escape the existentialism of my daily life, and I was looking forward to see my fictional hero at as a full power Jedi master on the big screen. Now all I feel is apathy when It comes to start wars.

Dune is what Star Wars wanted to be. (I’m talking the movies)

I find Jedi boring and have always been way more interested in the space fleet battles/logistics/tactics. As a kid I would watch RotJ and fast forward through the ground/throne room scenes just to watch the space battles. I still know exactly where all the scene cuts are.

The EU was the only good thing about it, the movies were always kinda mediocre.

For someone who wanted to make Star Wars as "inclusive" as possible, Kathleen Kennedy neglected so many opportunities. For starters, we only ever saw one Star Wars character with any disability, and they used it to portray his villainy. No poly characters, no varying religious communities, heck they didn't even have any relationships between droids and organic life forms despite the Dr. Aphra comics trying to make it clear the Star Wars universe doesn't have our level of standards for what counts as an expected relationship. It's almost as if they weren't trying to be inclusive, just populist.

Selling to Disnep was a huge mistake. Putting all the fabulous work of the expanded universe in the back for "creative freedom" and labeling it "fan fiction" basically killed Star Wars for me. Why make movies about Yuuzhan Vong, a novel and incredibly fascinating and creatively written species as the new menace, not detectable by the force, if you can just recycle the old movies?

they shouldn't have made the sequels as they are at all. they should've just adapted the books into movies.

I wonder why r2d2 doesn't simply close the stargates with his avatar powers (earth, wind, fire). 🤔

The whole turning off the lightsaber in combat being seen as dishonorable by the sith. The sith lie, cheat, steal, torture, and murder people to get what they want but somehow this is where they draw the line?

That's a lukewarm take tbh

Star wars is better without jedi or sith as main characters. The universe is far more interesting when it's regular people and the force users are rare or very weak. I liked rogue one so much more than the other movies. Jedi and sith and such are over powered bullshit and should be reserved for the rare deus ex machina. They are boring. Except Obi Wan because I have a huge crush on Ewan McGregor.

Rogue One has the best score. It drives the movie like a madman. It's amazing that it's only one NOT done by John Williams. But I think they took what he created and built a masterpiece.

It's mediocre fantasy with star destroyers instead of dragons. Also muppets. So. Many. Muppets.

99% of the salt involved with Star Wars comes from taking it way too seriously and treating it as way more important than it actually is.

Solo wasn't terrible, especially considering how much the sequels leaned into the nostalgia factor. Everyone hates on it because Han isn't as much of a "scoundrel" as they had inagined when he shot Greedo and then fell in love with Leia. But those characterizations are mostly headcanon. I have no trouble watching Solo and Rogue One as the bridge between the prequels and the OT.

The Last Jedi, especially if you don't take into account The Rise of Skywalker's sloppy reaction to it, is the best Star Wars movie since ROTJ, and maybe since Empire.

I loved A New Hope and thought The Empire Strikes Back was brilliant. I never recovered from the Muppets in the opening act of Return of the Jedi. None of the movies since then have gotten as high on the scale as "good". The series have been a mixed bag, but none of them have had the grandeur of the first two movies.

The best stories are revan and bane. The bane books and Kotor 1. Thats my take on it anyway

Mine is that Star Wars is lame as absolute fuck as an actual lore-heavy universe. There are exceptions (Andor, some games) but overall it's just lame. It was always meant to be a kids focused world and the new movies were just absolute dogshit and seemed like they were made for 5 year olds. The 3 new movies were legitimately some of the most boring and stupid movies that I have ever seen in my life. Also holy fucking shit Boba was so fucking bad. The actual fuck even was that show?

What bothers me the most is the absolute inconsistency for how powerful Jedi and Sith are. Sometimes they seem like Goku from DBZ. Other times they seem weak as shit. It just doesn't make sense.

I find the Dune and Mass Effect universe to be infinitely more interesting than Star Wars.

Edit: ugh the ewoks from episode 6..... completely ruined the mood, just like Jar Jar and baby Yoda. It just pulls you right out of the vibe and slaps tou in the face with the fact that this is for little kids and not for you.

To summarize, Star Wars sucks and is dumb. I also think Harry Potter is lame as shit but that's a hot take for another day..

I want to explore the universe that has been created; I am so sick of space wizards and good vs evil

TFA was the only good sequel movie. Shit was cool, don't care if derivative.

It has some interesting parts, but I prefer hard sci-fi over science fantasy. Just my preference.