None. Custom roms will save your ass.
this post was submitted on 27 Sep 2023
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Wish I could, but my college's NFC id cards need Google Pay, which doesn't run perfectly on custom ROMs, not to mention several other apps.
Install GrapheneOS. It has a sandboxed google play services. But, also, are you sure microG won't work?
Never had a problem tbh.
I even got Google pay to work with the right patches
Maybe try rooting and and hide root with zygisk then spoof device as some other device?
If they do require NFC through Google Pay then yeah custom ROMs will give you a hard time.
That depends on the rom. I have a custom ROM installed and Google pay works flawlessly.
Since it sounds like you like the Pixels, probably wait for the 8 or 8a. The 4A will last for a while yet, unless there's a really serious security hole that is discovered in the next few months.
The recent webp vulnerability is a bit concerning.
I might get the 8 next week. It's supposed to be a little smaller.
My Pixel 4A is fine and I will use it until it requires excessively annoying or expensive repairs. I've been using ACC to go limit battery charge, so I could get quite a while longer out of it.
Really wanted to try a custom ROM like Lineage, but it seems that Google Apps are a must for me
You can install them on LineageOS.
I'm running a 7a, would have liked to go to an 8a (or something with a headphone jack) but my company will drop me from email/work apps after end of security updates.
I went with 7a because it runs grapheneeOS without issue and allows my to sandbox play services a little which I need for work but don't want to just let them run wild.
So far so good.
Wait, your company will drop you when security updates end, but they are okay with you installing a custom ROM? Seems weird.
I work for a security company so they have strong opinions in the various custom ROMs. Most of the security so they make an exception for it as long as its not rooted.
Out of curiosity how does graphene allow you to sand box apps? Is it just disallowing permissions or closer to a vm?
Full independent user profiles. You can set as many as needed, for different sets of apps. But the "work profile" functionality doesn't always work (it fails to set up in my case).
Have you tried setting it up with Insular?
Not the same level of insulation. Also, only one single shadow profile is available. And also, if you try to use a work profile, it will either destroy your island or fail to install. Graphene is miles ahead on this with simultaneous multi user.
Actually, it's graphene I'm using Insular on. Seems to do the job.
All apps in Android are sandboxed, Graphene's is just stricter about it.
Well, no, in android, all non google apps sandboxed. In graphine all Google apps are also sandboxed as well.
They're sandboxed either way in either setting, the difference is the Play Services has privileged access normally, that doesn't negate the sandboxing that's happening either way. Even with GrapheneOS apps can be allowed to communicate out, all depends on their permissions. Also, Play Services aside, Google's apps are typically userland only apps, without any special privilege. Apps have multiple ways to communicate with each other.
No, normal google apps don't ask for permissions, they just get access to whatever they want.
False....
I wanna check out the 8 or wait for the 8a. For me the size of the 4a is perfect. I want the replacement to be as handy.
Dude, it was the perfect size. I went from it to a 7a. I have large hands and this thing is too big.
Same. When I have to use the 4a, it feels SO TINY now in comparison
You can use custom ROMs with google apps, they just generally ship without any. It's just an extra zip that you need to flash after the ROM.
If you can hold off until around May, I'd say go for a Pixel 8a. You'd benefit from the new 7 years of software updates (instead of 5 if you buy a 7a this year). Or maybe go for a Pixel 7a when it gets a sufficiently good discount, you could try your luck during Black Friday.
Won't you have security updates for a while even OS updates have been stopped? If your current phone works fine, why not hold onto it a little longer?
Nope, missed out on the September 2023 security update, no phone older than the 4a 5G got it.
Are you sure? I have 4XL and the security update just came through today. Google released the security update late again, but they did release it. Or is the 4XL newer than the 4a5G?
The 4a's EOL'd 2 yrs ago, extended support for them ended last month.
Well, shoot. Maybe a custom ROM with OSS component updates, that supports the play services (if that's still a requirement). At least until you can find another phone you like.
P4XL here. It's still running well, but the battery is degrading noticeably.
I'm waiting to see the reviews of the Pixel 8 Pro, but I'm also iPhone-curious. Realistically I'll probably wait until the P9, but it depends on the reviews and prices.
My 4a 5G screen cracked beyond usage three weeks ago. I thought about it & ended up buying a used 4a 5G for $100 on swappa. I get too much usage via the earphone jack and don't see any new features that warrant an upgrade.
Gonna keep it until the first update skips me and then root & flash it w/ Pixel Experience
4a 5g here. No idea. I want a mid level phone with a headphone jack that isn't filled with bloatware. Apparently that's hard to find these days
I had a 3a XL, but I just had a zenfone 10 arrive.
fantastic device and it's so refreshing to be able to use it with one hand.
None! Using calyxos and getting updates for now. Next phone would ne either a second-hand pixel Xa or a fairphone
Those aren't proper updates though, it's better than the stick rom rn, but you should replace it as soon as possible
My bootloader is locked out so I can't load any custom roms unfortunately. Probably gonna get a Pixel 7 straight from google and load grapheneos onto it.
Since it sounds like you like the Pixels, probably wait for the 8 or 8a. The 4A should still be good till then, unless there's a really serious security hole that is discovered in the next few months.