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[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Fuck Chrome

All my homies use Firefox and LibreWolf

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Google payed billions in fines for making chrome default on android and now has to ask which browser you want when you setup a device.

Microsoft on the other hand actively hinders the installation of other browsers. This is a huge lawsuit just waiting there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Microsoft knows this has so much power with a certain computer user demographic and I hate it so much. It was the worst, having to teach people to install certain useful software while also directing them to override big scary warnings..."But just this time! Don't do it all the time!"

It made me look shady, it made the software look shady, for no good reason.

...And you just know, sadly they're the same kind of users that will probably repeat that pattern with a suspicious .exe they got in an email.

[–] [email protected] 190 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This shit is absolutely atrocious and shows how far we've fallen.

Microsoft almost got broken up as a company over simply BUNDLING a browser. Now they're actively hijacking other installs to put big warnings up and redirecting to theirs. It's absolutely bonkers this is allowed.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Is this a real screenshot or just an out of context meme? I've never seen this prompt when installing other browsers on any of my PCs running Windows 10 over the last 7+ years of it being out.

Edit: It seems to be real. That is craziness. I also realized that all my licenses are Professional or Enterprise (those only on my work-issued devices), so I'm assuming that's why I've never seen it. Like the other comment pointed out, they had their feet put to the fire over simply bundling Internet Explorer in the late 90s, yet nowadays they get away with this shit.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes I've seen it before. Once Microsoft even updated their virus definitions to auto-delete the chrome installer when downloaded. Thankfully they reversed that one pretty quickly, but I had to completely disable all Windows virus protection to install chrome for a relative.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wondered why Chrome wasn’t “Microsoft verified“ anyway. Do they mean it’s not from their store?

Found someone’s screenshot in response to “How to install apps that are not Microsoft-verified”:

So I’m guessing they’re punishing those who don’t distribute through their store. (Where I wouldn’t be surprised they offered fewer features)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many new PCs (generally the cheaper priced ones) come in S mode now, where you can only install Microsoft store apps. You can turn this off to allow regular PC programs too, but they require you to set up the Microsoft store before you can disable it.

If you're trying to set up a new PC without a Microsoft account (which is getting increasingly hard), you can't disable S mode. There was a workaround that involved booting into recovery mode and running some commands/registry edits, but I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft has blocked that too by now.

This is also the biggest reason Valve supports Linux and ChromeOS. Microsoft really wants full control over what software people can use on Windows, and Valve is worried about getting pushed off the platform.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And they actually wonder why tech literate people shit all over them every chance they get. This is some trash human behavior.

It'd be like if you sprayed fart spray all over your neighbors table at a flea market because they also have a few pokemon cards for sale but they're in better condition than yours.

"Rather than improve myself I'm going to block others from doing better than me" is the corporate worlds motto ATM. Race to the bottom

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (4 children)

My memory might be weak on this topic but Microsoft has already went through a lawsuit due to not allowing people to use other browsers. And that case made Bill Gates lose money.

Might be this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.?wprov=sfla1

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Also, not trying to be smart or anything but Microsoft isn’t run by Bill Gates anymore. All these shady things started happening after he left. I think he allowed the Company to buy him out because he was getting too old. I’m not really sure on why he did/allowed that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Nadella

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

All these shady things started happening after he left.

Not really, they have a history of this kind of thing. They just calmed down a little between roughly 2005 and 2015.

The big antitrust case when they killed Netscape was in 1998. Bill Gate's deposition from that case is kind of interesting to watch as a historical document. It's on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL90W55zhFBOuZuhgxBsjpgDy0o3ll1PSz

In that lawsuit their "Embrace Extend Extinguish" strategy in which they tried to smother open standards became public too.

They tried with Java and their J++ language too, but failed luckily. And lost a lawsuit against Sun on the way.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Plenty of shady monopolistic things happened under Gates as well. The original Explorer antitrust lawsuit dates from the late 90s, the ACPI debacle, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know. I am a Linux enthusiast myself. After Sadya got in the position, Microsoft suddenly became to get interested in Linux, contributing to projects and even funding them. But to this day, I still do not trust them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Never trust a Big Data Partner. 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 days ago

Microsoft.

MICROSOFT.

NOBODY IS GOING TO LISTEN TO YOUR "HEY MAYBE THIS IS A VIRUS" WARNING IF YOU HAVE TO CLICK THROUGH IT TO INSTALL CHROME.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bro.... the demonification of non-manifacturer software has GOT to stop. On huawei its even worse, enabling third party installing forces you thru like three screens and u have to wait 10 FKN SECONDS before u can click thru each..

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

The very, VERY WORST thing about macOS Sequoia is how cunty they’ve become over software downloaded from the internet.

Downloaded an update for Freetube yesterday. Dragged it into the Apps folder, tried to open it.

“Nah bruv. Put it in the bin” said macOS. No other options. Ignore, or trash it.

I’m a canny user, so I know that I now have to open the Security settings and click a button to say I’m happy to use the app.

Return to the app to open it.

“Nah bruv. Put it in the bin. Or open it if you’re stupid. Whatever”

Only then will it open.

Some software, usually stuff downloaded from GitHub, requires me to run a command in Terminal before it’ll run. Tried to install Librewolf via Brew the other day, and had to use Terminal to remove and replace the signature because Finder couldn’t even recognise it as a usable app.

Stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Don't forget that macOS literally contacts Apple server for every binary you execute. When there was an issue with those servers, only Apple software was launchable.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You’re telling me, maaan— they’ve been so up in their feelings lately. I bought a Mac OS X (old as fuck, I know) from some guy on Facebook and when I got home I reset it and set it up. Then Mac like —you can’t update this Model because *. Like— bruh… You won’t let me update this dinosaur to 2019? They have the ability because it is within its compatibility but they just don’t do it. It’ll start “Installing…” then it never starts or finishes. It just wastes my Internet running forever moving files back and forth forever then says “Update not allows for Mac OS X” like —WHAT THE FUCK?! How you going to act like I can update, then just give an error after a billion years wasting my internet then be like “Update not supported” or some shit? 🤦‍♂️ All these companies are freaking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you’re trying to install a newer version of macOS than your Mac will allow, then Opencore Legacy Patcher is your friend.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Thank you so much for that! I’ll try it as soon as possible. I’m stuck on, I think it’s the MacOS X 10.1.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It seems like it's still possible to disable Gatekeeper on macOS 15: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255759797

I haven't tried it though. It's so rare that I want to run something unsigned, I prefer leaving it enabled and then allowing whatever it is I want to run.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Huawei

Well there's yer problem

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Stop, I can only switch to Linux so much

[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago (3 children)

the chad "sudo apt install firefox" vs the virgin "noo dont install a different browser,use edge"

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Ah damn, it’s the Ubuntu snap version.

sudo apt install firefox-esr
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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Should be installing Firefox anyway, otherwise why don't you just use Edge, it's also Chromium...

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Y'all are installing malware to replace malware.

Firefox all the way!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

To be fair, non-malware OSs come with Firefox preinstalled.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It just seems like Microsoft desperately trying to get anyone to use Edge lol

I wouldn't be surprised if you clicked "install anyway" and another warning popped up that said "Please just use Edge? Just try it for a little bit? Pretty please? We'll be your best friend if you do"

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IIRC, people have previously reported that Windows 11(?) switched their default browser back to Edge after installing an update.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

That's been going on since 10 already at least.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate them both and use neither. But probably I would use edge over chrome if I had to choose

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Well send Balmer to your house with a box of cookies! (Disclaimer: box may be empty depending on length of trip)

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Can't decide what's a better meme, this or installing Chrome over Edge 🤔🤔🤔

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago

Microsoft's malware is just protecting you.

Game recognises game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't Microsoft just recently get a law suit for such practices or am I mixing it up with Google (who now can't pay Mozilla anymore to ship their browser with google as the default search engine)?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

IIRC microsoft got got about this in the ie6 days or so, looks like they found their way back to their old behavior

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