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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Excuse my ignorance on arm situation on Windows, but this felt like same situation with third party arm sbc like Orange Pis and rockchip... In Orange Pi 5 and rockship as soon as community develop some stuff on their own, the developer stop providing assistance and pretty much abandon software support and to this day RK3588s (the soc used on OPi 5 and several other sbc) haven't got Vulkan support meanwhile Raspberry Pi 5 got its VK support 2 weeks after device public release which is shame for rockchip.

I wish Qualcomm competent enough to realise bringing software support boosts the hardware longevity as much as Apple did with their ecosystem which provide both software and hardware supports to make their chips runs at its maximum potential.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I wonder if they know that "pause indefinitely" has a word they can use. That word is "Stop". Qualcomm has stopped supporting the device. They have stopped producing it. Not "paused indefinitely".

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago

Corporate executives love using the word pause to allow the possibility for a resume. It also makes it not a failure since it never finishes negatively: it is paused.

It's word gymnastics.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Either they’re scared of competing with new intel NUC SOCs built on their 18A process, or this confirms their buyout of Intel is happening, and they’re preparing to exit from the laptop/SFF space.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Didn’t Intel cancel NUC because it was just a tiny niche not worth the effort?

I can’t imagine Qualcomm, who traditionally sells chips to phone makers, has any interest in becoming a vendor of SFF PCs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Sort of, maybe. Intel will launch new hardware demonstrators as product lines for consumers, with the goal of pushing their OEM customers to create similar product lines i.e. USFF PCs.

They do this with laptops, and a bunch of other stuff. They'd rather not be in the retail hardware business, but they also realize that PC OEMs operate on slim margins, and as such are not the most creative risk takers.

So it's in Intel's interest to periodically launch new consumer lines to (hopefully) prove there's a market to be had, with whatever new product type of they're launching. Powered by Intel of course.

At least, that's my understanding of the issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I thought the NUC was such a great idea for home servers, I bought one from AMD.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 hours ago

Just Qualcomm showing their customary hostility to developers.

They’re resentful they had to produce dev kits in the first place, so delayed them until after other companies produced retail products.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Odd. Seems like a winner form factor for a little Nvidia Shield replacement / TV gaming machine. Wonder if there is an inherent flaw we haven't heard about yet.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 hours ago

the Developer Kit product comprehensively has not met our usual standards of excellence and so we are reaching out to let you know that unfortunately we have made the decision to pause this product and the support of it, indefinitely.

It sounds like they fucked something up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 hours ago

The inherent flaw is Qualcomm actually having to properly support one of their chipsets directly to customers for once, something they're apparently really bad at. This box has had some pretty bad press already, mostly due to the software being abysmal.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

Qualcomm Snapdragon X may achieve better success if they followed Apple's path (a well rounded dev kit), and makes Linux first class support instead of Windows with the Copilot+ PC which proven is a dumpster fire.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

has the author saved a misspelling into their autocorrect?