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[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 minutes ago

This literally happened to me recently. Was going to Germany for 2 weeks and wanted to use a cheap eSIM for data only. I asked them if they could unlock my phone so I could do this, and they said no since it’s not paid off. I still have a new months left to pay it off, and didn’t wanna drop $250 to do that so I just had to pay the international data plan. $12(maybe $10? Can’t remember) a day, 10 day maximum charge per cycle so I’ll pay $120 for mine and $60 for my partners. Instead of the $11 30gb data plan I wanted. I’m never buying a phone from a carrier again, I will always just buy it outright from now on. It was a stupid situation.

Also the data roaming sucked, each time we moved from one provider network to another we had to restart our phones as the data didn’t wanna work…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Capitalist companies can be awfully communist when it comes to our cellphone.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Like when you buy the thing sooner? Cuz we would remove all the bloatware they add. They used to do that to computers and we just stopped buying those shit things and building our own.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Shit man. I used to work at a Circuit City at the height of bloated shitty Celeron PCs.

We would be forced to sell a "system optimization" on each PC we sold. It was just a script that uninstalled a few of the bloatware items and tweaked the animation speed to make the customer think we did something incredible.

I fucking hated that job!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

That’s just straight up a scam

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Reads like a scam. Maybe our time is not as full of scams as compared to the past.

After all, memories get distorted. As kids and teens we'd have parents look out for us and give good advice, helping us avoid some of the worse parts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is about network unlocking and not bootloader unlocking

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Ah okay. I thought I was dead and went to heaven accidentally. I guess I'm back here. I'll just place my nuts on the anvil so my new phone can be safely smashed over them. Or like how can I buy a phone that is actually truly mine and not the phone company's?

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Just make carrier locking illegal and have customers pay the actual price, now it's just hidden costs to the consumer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It isn't been a hidden cost for a while. Phone companies sell the phones at full price, but consumers want the 2 year 0% APR financing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

If consumers bought the phones from a third party, there'd be absolutely no reason to lock the phone to a carrier. But when carriers also provide the financing, there's an incentive to keep them on the service until the bill is paid. Screw that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

If I could drop $1000+ for the device all at once, I already would be getting them carrier unbranded.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Then don't buy a $1k device, and instead buy something you can afford?

Otherwise, there are tons of buy now, pay later services, so you could just use any of those.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not go into debt to upgrade something that actually in most cases doesn't need upgrading. What a amazing thought.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Yup. I upgraded my phone because it ran out of software updates (had for >3 years). My new phone cost <$400 and has >5 years of software support, if the hardware lasts that long. A $1k device is not necessary and is a luxury item, and you shouldn't go into debt for luxuries...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Exactly. I started buying my phones at full price unlocked in 2016 when I switched to a mobile virtual network operator and I've never gone back to $1,000 phones because losing $1,000 from your Monero wallet hurts bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've been doing the same. It makes traveling easier too. It costs way less to get a local sim for an unlocked phone you own than to pay the carrier to allow you to use a locked phone overseas.

At home, MVNOs, for me, were basically what the rest of the world had. The big carriers kept pushing phones, the MVNOs were simpler, quicker, and less scammy. Eventually I found a non-MVNO T-Mobile prepaid plan that gave me unlimited SMS, 100min. Talk, and 5-6GB data (which they deceptively call unlimited 👎, but was more than enough for me)

The site run by the greedy little pigboy used to have a "nocontract" community for discussing the best plans, they had a big google sheet and lots of research, but it seems someone infiltrated it because they no longer list the best deals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Yep, me personally, I am on the T-Mobile Connect 5GB plan, which gives me unlimited talk and text with 5GB of data and then no more. But that's perfectly fine by me since the vast majority of the time I have access to Wi-Fi extremely easily.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Until you realize that things like wifi calling have to be an at&t phone. Unless they've changed this in the last few years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

But who is going to provide the financing otherwise?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

PayPal credit is an option. No interest if you pay it off in 6 months.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I accidentally broke my Sony after drowning it a little too hard. I remember going into a AT&T store at a mall in the us and having this literal conversation.

"Do you have the Pixel 7 Pro?"

"Yes! We do."

"Does it come carrier unlocked?"

"No..."

"Thanks for your time"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I usually just buy my phone directly from a big box store never from a carrier

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Same, and phones are good enough now that I feel perfectly comfortable buying a device that is two generations behind. I recently saved nearly $1300 by doing this ($1800 when it was new; I paid $550), and the phone feels just as fast and responsive as a brand new flagship.

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I don’t play this game. I buy my own unlocked phone and find prepaid cell service at a fraction of the cost.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Australia is going to fore carriers to disconnect customers with devices that are not guaranteed to support emergency calling over volte. As there are still unsolved problems with detecting that, the providers fall back to only allowing devices they provided themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

god I hate how the government acts like smartphones need to call. smartphones are able to be used as computers and should be treated as such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Yeah. I'm done with stupid phone number calling. Anybody can fake a phone number. It's stupid as stupid can be. It's time to stop using a phone number and personalize the phone a bit. Like 2FA for calls. If you don't have it, send me a post card thru the USPS and I'll let you have my 2FA access code. Meet me at the mall and I can get you my 2FA. And if I get to meet a bad guy, I'll just change the 2FA for that one person.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Basically, AT&T argues against it saying it’ll force them to innovate and be competitive with other services.

Won’t anyone think of the poor telecom shareholders??

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/contact/phone/q19.htm

Canada:

First, locked phones are a thing of the past. Effective December 1, 2017, service providers will have to offer unlocked devices to their customers.

What are the benefits of having an unlocked device?

An unlocked device can be used on other networks, which means that you will be able to switch providers and keep the same phone. That means more flexibility for you, the consumer.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want to reiterate this. Even second hand phones. Find the carrier and call them. They legally have to oblige.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

I remember trying to do this when this first became law. Bell told me no anyways.

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