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TLDR:
Windows 11 v24H2 and beyond will have Recall installed on every system. Attempting to remove Recall will now break some file explorer features such as tabs.

YT Video (5min)

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Original Github Issue

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Judging by the comments in this thread this will be the one defining mistake that kills Microsoft.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago

Just use explorer patcher on win,10 22h2, fixed

[–] [email protected] 294 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is absolutely insane
My condolences to all Windows 11 users.

It's becoming common knowledge that:

  • It's not a matter of if but when will xyz service/application be breached and what are the potential damages it could do to me and others?

"I assume every online service is not if; it's when is it going to be breached? Right? So I operate under that assumption, that everything is going to be breached at some point. And so that's why Recall was so scary to me where it's like, I don't care how secure they say it is, like you look at Spectre and Meltdown no one thought these things were going to affect millions of CPUs and here we are, right?

  • Steve from Gamers Nexus

[Level1Techs] Microsoft Is KILLING Windows | ft. Steve @GamersNexus

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago (28 children)

I guess I just have to keep Windows 10 with a custom group policy that disables all updates either forever or until I learn Linux.

Linux gaming is getting to the point that I could consider the switch, but I hear scary stories about Nvidia drivers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Nvidia drivers are the reason I end up going back to windows every time. Once installed they work fine, but installation and updating were always fraught with issues, and would inevitably break and piss me off to the point I gave up and went back to windows.

Haven't tried since I got my amd card, but maybe Nvidia Linux drivers are less terrible than they had been.

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[–] [email protected] 196 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

After all the fud and opposition they've pushed against it over the years. It's nice to see them finally do things to help it.

Quick edit to add that it couldn't come at a better time now that there are companies like system 76 out there. Making Linux compatible systems that ship with Linux that you can actually recommend to someone who is a novice to pick up. They may be on a more expensive side. But what's your privacy worth?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

After all the fud and opposition they’ve pushed against it over the years.

what did they do?? i havent heard of this before damn

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But what's your privacy worth?

I think society has shown us time and time again over several decades that the answer to that question is "not a God damned thing".

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[–] [email protected] 196 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Okay, this might be a non-issue: https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil/issues/2697#issuecomment-2403792309

To those that arrive here from any Youtube or Twitter posts, please know that disabling Recall via DISM works fine, and preserves the modern File Explorer (though some might consider this an anti-feature). CBS correctly disables it, and the disablement is preserved through reboots, just like with any other feature.

Edit: of course, the big problem here is that it's still present (even disabled) and hence malware could turn it back on without you realising. Ugh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Its odd to call Windows Update "Malware".

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What the actual fuck, microsoft?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"We're entitled to everything to do, every scrap of data, everything you create, so we can feed our AI to make even more money, because you are ~~making the mistake of~~ using our product. If someone does hack our systems and steals all your data, who fucking cares? You aren't me. I still get paid."

-Microsuck execs.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

🤑 Marketing for the marketing god! Data for the data throne!

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Welp. Time to buy a NAS to back up all my stuff and rebuild this pc with Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I won't upgrade past 10 anyways and if I can't run 10, back to Linux I go.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (10 children)

You've got until late 2025 before 10 stops receiving security updates. I would not stay long after that.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Looks like I picked the right year to switch to Linux on my primary pc.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Switching to Free Software is kind of like planting a tree: the best time was years ago (because you'd be over the learning curve). The second-best time is now.

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