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Today we take the next step to unify these capabilities into a single experience we call Microsoft Copilot, your everyday AI companion. Copilot will uniquely incorporate the context and intelligence of the web, your work data and what you are doing in the moment on your PC to provide better assistance – with your privacy and security at the forefront. It will be a simple and seamless experience, available in Windows 11, Microsoft 365, and in our web browser with Edge and Bing. It will work as an app or reveal itself when you need it with a right click. We will continue to add capabilities and connections to Copilot across to our most-used applications over time in service of our vision to have one experience that works across your whole life.

Copilot will begin to roll out in its early form as part of our free update to Windows 11, starting Sept. 26 — and across Bing, Edge, and Microsoft 365 Copilot this fall. We’re also announcing some exciting new experiences and devices to help you be more productive, spark your creativity, and to meet the everyday needs of people and businesses.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago

That's gonna be a "no" from me, dawg.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Cortana, not the Microsoft assistant, was an actual AI. So Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom, ditched the name that actually made sense and went with.. copilot. 😬

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It makes sense they ditched the name honestly, Cortana has a garbage reputation and they're chasing trends with the copilot name.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's a shame. The Windows Phone version of Cortana was much better IMO than Siri and Google Assistant at the time. (And tbh Google Assistant seems to be getting worse over time.) It just wasn't a good fit at the time for desktop PCs and Microsoft had no mobile offering to make it the default.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As controversial as it is, this might be my favourite AI assistant name; it's a fun phrasing that explains it's intended use well.

I still won't use it of course, but that's just because I don't care.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upgrading Cortana would have been a much better move, imo. I could see Apple not wanting to make Siri AI, as Siri is and has been a household name. Cortana, on the other hand, was used by basically no one.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Especially since they already had the perfect name: Clippy!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Should have waited to blow their load with the name Cortana until they had an actual VI type technology. Not the Google assistant knockoff that Cortana was.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

"But... Copilot doesn't have titties .."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Soon actual copilots will have to either be replaced with AI or rename their position to not be associated with that garbage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unlike ChatGPT or Bard, GitHub Copilot is actually useful for software engineering, so personally I think it was a good move to utilize that brand.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You hugely underestimate the social ubiquity and uncapped potential of the name Cortana.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So it's finally happening. I'm honestly a bit pessimistic on the whole AI integrated into the system thing, I hope there's an easy option to turn it off or dismiss it entirely. I can see myself using this to ask it where the hell the setting I'm looking for is, but that's about it.

I also bet this will be way more useful than microsoft's unhinged forums for tech support. It can't get worse with "have you tried running nfc /scannow" as a response to every unrelated problem.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The easy way to turn it off is not paying for it. It’s like $30/user/month.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh man, I bet Microsoft's sales department is stoked. Selling AI to clueless executives is going to be super easy and at $30 a user a month, probably with a minimum six month license or something, they're gonna make bank selling snake oil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure it can be bundled with office subscriptions for a discounted price of an extra 45$ a month, perfect to accelerate your office's productivity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will later be included in Windows 11, version 23H2, the annual feature update for Window 11, which will be released in Q4 of this calendar year. With the feature update, Copilot in Windows will be on by default, but under your control with Microsoft Intune policy or Group Policy.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/copilot-in-windows-and-new-cloud-pc-experiences-coming-to/ba-p/3933653

Copilot will begin to roll out in its early form as part of our free update to Windows 11, starting Sept. 26 — and across Bing, Edge, and Microsoft 365 Copilot this fall.

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/09/21/announcing-microsoft-copilot-your-everyday-ai-companion/

I am fairly certain that "Copilot for windows" will be "free" while the more advanced Microsoft 365 Copilot will be the one that costs $30 extra per user (on top of any licenses like E3 or E5)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh. I thought there'd be a free tier like Bing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bing is the free tier, to get people to use it. Co-pilot was never going to be free. They need to recoup the $10 Billion investment in OpenAI.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Here's a link to a page that was gone before I finished copying the url and doesn't forward anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Omg, I saw an answer on there the other day from 2018 talking about "software conflicts". They don't even know what they're talking about most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I can see Microsoft being even more aggressive with beating features into you with windows. Best steer clear if possible

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Layers in paint is huge tbf

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Microsoft blogs even sound like corpo bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Clippy Reborn!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I am so glad my PC does not support windows 11.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The design of that logo and splash image is taking me back to 2006

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I get good sounding garbage out of "AI" four times out of five. This sounds like paying $30 to crash my productivity. But at least running the backend uses a gross amount of power and water.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I get extremely good results out of AI and I am happy to pay 20 euros per month.

I am sure it will find many happy customers

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah AI unfortunately suffers from needing an operator that can explain their ideas clearly in written text, because that will directly change the quality of the output. You also have to be at least baseline knowledgeable about what you're asking it or you won't notice the errors.

You can't just be a computer illiterate person and ask it to make a python script for you and expect it to work. Like most things people aren't realizing that it's intended to amplify the workload of someone in a professional field that can do the job themselves and are looking to subsidize the grunt work or the time it takes to write an email or search the web for something.

For those tasks it's amazing and really helpful. I am in IT though so we definitely have bigger use cases than most. We are constantly having to integrate some bullshit application that HR thinks they need, etc.

With AI I can search the web for relevant config commands or vendor documentation and have it assemble the data for me. It's not always correct but it gets me on the right track consistently and faster than had I spent that time on the fourth page of DDG trying to see what I'm supposed to clear in the firewall for the manager that's bitching shes not able to use whatever they want.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teams is already sucking up proprietary data and running ML on it, any company stupid enough to use that and this together deserves how bad this will screw them in their markets down the road.

All of that data is worth billions to the stock market and competitors, and Microsoft is breached constantly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teams is already sucking up proprietary data and running ML on it,

Any source?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How do you think Microsoft generates the summaries of meetings, emails, contextual content, messages and attendee summaries for the 'Productivity Score Reports'?

Microsoft has stated if you block everything except telemetry, Teams won't be able to provide those. The source is Microsoft's own documentation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We want clippy!

Actually I don't care tho cuz everything I need is comfortably on my Linux install.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I only clicked on this thread to see how far I'd have to scroll before some wee fanny said "aCkSHuRLy I uSE LInUx"

First comment lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

before some wee fanny said "aCkSHuRLy I uSE LInUx"

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol, gets me everytime. A good chuckle for the day. Thank you!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For a website that hates using Windows, they sure fucking talking it a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It just struck me that artificial intelligence is an accurate term after all, just in a different sense than the classic idea of a non-living consciousness.

It's "artificial intelligence" in that it's a substitute for real intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, never sure why people had such an issue with the term.

Example, artificial hair is a broad term, and can span from looking like a straw broom to indistinguishable from real hair, and everything in between.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In science fiction there's sometimes a distinction between virtual intelligence (something that simulates intelligence but isn't really intelligent) and actual artificial intelligence (something really intelligent but created through science and engineering instead of natural biological evolution).

Large language models would almost certainly be VI by those definitions, not AI.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

So clippy who now will send all your personal data to Microsoft for their sales team.

Switch to Linux, fuck everything about Microsoft

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