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Examples: Itchy & Scratchy from The Simpsons, The Scary Door from Futurama, or The Grand Inquisitor from Dostoevsky.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the Wall in Solar Opposites.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Homer’s Odyssey.

Most modern adaptations present the stories Odysseus tells while visiting the Phaeacians as if they were the actual plot—but Homer’s audience would have known Odysseus as a notorious liar and trickster and wouldn’t necessarily have regarded his stories as true even within the context of the frame narrative. Homer’s epic focuses as much on the parallel stories of Telemachus and Penelope—I read the underlying story as their struggle to untangle Odysseus from his own web of deceptions and fantasies and bring him back to reality.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

This is not exactly what you're asking for (media inside media), but it's really close in spirit (nested narratives), and I really like it: a book written in Portuguese in the XIX century, called Noite na Taverna (Night in the Tavern).

The book has an overarching story of friends telling each other stories in a tavern, over booze; with all those nested stories being about love, despair, and death (it has a strong gothic vibe).

And, as each character tells the others a story, there's always that fishy smell that the story might be actually bullshit; and other characters do raise some doubts about its in-universe veracity (like Bertram does to Solfieri). And you, as the reader, do the same - but in no moment you question the veracity of the overarching story, and you feel like you're inside the tavern alongside the drunkards.

So it's a lot like the author is toying with your suspension of disbelief - redirecting it from the overarching story to the nested stories, and as you doubt the later you get even more immersed into the former.


If I must use an example of media within media, then my choice would be "The Book" within Orwell's 1984. I think that it's a great piece because it shows Orwell's views on politics and society, while still serving narrative and worldbuilding purpose - for Winston it's a material proof of the Inner Party's bullshit, for O'Brien it's a tool of the Inner Party to sniff out dissidence. (Note: 1984 is extremely misrepresented nowadays, I'm aware, but I still like it.)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Here's a website about those kinds of fake shows

https://nestflix.fun/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Delightful!!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Threshold Kids in the Video game control it was a kids TV series to teach kids in the game about the FBC it was kinda bonkers

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Just saw "The Play That Goes Wrong," and it is a two hour masterpiece of a play within a play.

I see videos of complete productions on youtube. Go watch one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I just stated watching The Goes Wrong Show on Amazon. Not sure if I would appreciate more than 1 episode a night, but the first one had me laughing so hard I couldn't breathe.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

The “Busty Asian Beauties” running gag in supernatural. Was a magazine, website etc. Always gave me a chuckle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

"Ow, My Balls" is a claaaassic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"The Deb of Night" radio show from Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines is consistently hilarious and a great way to relax between the more horrific parts of the game. Bonus points for one of the regular callers guessing the plot of the game by complete chance and one of the main villains calling in to threaten whoever might be listening.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In "day of the tentacle" Bernard could walk up to the computer and play the game preceding day of the tentacle. That was nice.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Sick Sad World from Daria. I'd love that show

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I'm a big fan of fake brands/products in anime. I don't know why, but they bring me joy.

Marvelsoft Macindows

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

"S." by Doug Dorst is in itself a fake novel, where the "real" story takes place as handwritten notes in the margins to form the complete story, the fake novel itself just a prop. But reading the novel-within-a-novel-that-is-the-novel "Ship of Thesus" by itself is an interesting short surreal read.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gotta love The Rise and Fall of Sanctuary Moon from The Murderbot Diaries.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We never actually find out what happens in it, though.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Invitation To Love the soap opera that a lot of residents of Twin Peaks, especially Nadine, seemingly adored.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Seven on 7 is a series of TV news shorts and commercials from The Boys universe. It's a delightful little parody of Fox News. The whole series is available free on YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Crash Nebula and The Crimson Chin from Fairly Oddparents are both great

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lestat being a rockstar and fronting his own band.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff from Homestuck. Although it actually predates Homestuck and was retroactively converted into media-within-media, does that still count?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Interdimensional TV on Rick and Morty

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Watched Asteroid City recently for the first time. I thought the play within the movie (and the intertwining back and forth of storylines) was really interesting and entertaining.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (6 children)

"Address Unknown", a twilight zone/detective noir tv show within the universe of Max Payne.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

McGarnigle from the Simpsons

Binky the Clown and The Buddy Bears from Garfield and Friends

Reptar from Rugrats

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Black Mirror. News tickers and headlines discuss other world-building stories from different episodes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The poems of Thomas Zane in the old gods of asgard concert in the book about max Payne in the video game Allen wake in the video game control in the amazing TV series the threshold kids in that song the janitor is singing.

... Pretty sure that's the continuity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Wheel! Of! Fish!

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