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European iPhones are more fun now (www.theverge.com)

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[–] [email protected] 270 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Immagine if Chrome wasn't just a rinky dink Safari emulator!

Wow, can't wait to not only have my data harvested by Apple but also Google!

FFS, stop cumming for Chrome and start using Firefox!

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (8 children)

There's no Firefox engine for iOS and Mozilla says it doesn't make financial sense to port it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did they say that? Cause it looks like there is at least some work being done on this:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1882872

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

There's been talk about exploring porting the engine to iOS at the beginning of 2023 but AFAIK the current state of things was that it's a significant undertaking and probably not worth it just for the EU market.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (25 children)

In two years time Apple, and every other smartphone manufacturer on the EU market for that matter, will be forced to make the battery user replaceable and that one will most likely benefit everyone; unless Apple wants to release two versions of every iPhone to comply with EU regulations which they won't.

[–] [email protected] 113 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just like with USB-C, which the EU regulated and now the iPad and IPhone have.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 months ago (11 children)

the stupidest thing is iPad had USB-C since 2018! and yet on iPhones they latched on to lightning for another 6 years before EU forced them to standardize

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That’s because they’ve been pushing the iPad as a sort of Mac Lite, but they can’t do that unless you can plug peripherals or a thumb drive into it. You can 100% plug a USB-C laptop dock into an iPad, and it’ll work. You can even use a mouse with it if you really want to.

But they wanted to keep Lightning around as long as possible, because they made a commission on every single lighting cable that was sold; Companies had to license the rights to use the connector, and had to pay Apple for every one they used. That’s why Lightning cables were always a few bucks more expensive than a comparable USB-C cable. That extra few bucks was going straight into Apple’s pocket. It was a huge source of passive income for the company, which they were reluctant to let go of.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no no no, that was just Apple being brave /s

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When they do come to it. I hope its the easily swappable like the ones in Nokia 3310. Otherwise its pointless imo.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (5 children)

AFAIK, the EU defines "user replaceable" as literally that; you open a hatch, pull the battery out and stick a new one in.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Fuck, let's hope they at least allow screws. Click-in latches are prone to breaking and wearing out

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

How many often are you planning on replacing the battery in your phone that it would wear out the panel?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The ware would most likely come from someone that has a spare battery that is ready to go. Think of your phone burning 80% of the juice and you’re about to hop on a flight that you’re barely going to make (no time to charge). Slap that stand by battery in and off you go. That’s what I did with my old Nokia or blackberry back in the day. Oh and for my HTC aria.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

With my N900 I used to travel with 6 to 10 charged batteries to have a few days of runtime. Things got better now with powerbanks - but for something like hiking just carrying a few spares would still be smaller and lighter.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Meh, most iPhones live in a case, it'll be fine

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Unfortunately, they do not define it that way.

And there are exceptions based on capacity and how long you guarantee the battery capacity will be good for. IIRC, if it still has 70% capacity by 3 years time, it doesn't have to be replaceable at all.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

The more they get regulated, the better their stuff becomes*. It's wild that people are on the side of Apple for a lot of this stuff, most prominently probably with third party app stores supposedly "decreasing security".

Sent from my MacBook :^)

* At least when it comes to consumer rights regulations. I'm still mad about China demanding they remove the option to accept AirDrop from everyone without a time limit on iPhones and Apple then implementing that restriction globally for whatever godforsaken reason.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Begging iPhone to play the catch up game and just have Android's basic features lol

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Except that many Android phones also don't have replaceable batteries anymore.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hope it doesnt lead to smaller batteries though. It feels like it could since they have to put the battery so it's accessible.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But it'll also allow you to just carry 2 batteries and swap if needed. Even if you don't want to do that, when your battery ages enough that you can't at all go through a typical day, you can easily change it out yourself to a fresh one to refresh your phone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately it won't.

This legislation isn't for batteries that replaceable. More like "can be swapped by a technician in 5 minutes" replaceable.

Additionally, if the manufacturer guarantees (IIRC) 70% capacity after 3 years, they don't have to do anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be honest I prefer to use a power bank, it's more convenient than having to swap batteries (i used to do that too) as you don't have to power down the device. And one power bank can power many different devices, so i don't have to buy a new one when i Change phones, and can use the same power bank to charge my earbuds, kindle, smartphone, and a variety of other devices, or lend it to someone.

Having said that, i did have my Nexus 6P battery degrade and had to be RMAd, lucky for me it was within warranty. Battery is the fastest failing component so being replaceable will go a long way in prolonging devices lifetime, but doesn't have to be user-replaceable.