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[–] [email protected] 135 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Honestly surprised there are no ads yet. I thought that was the whole point of the website...

[–] [email protected] 145 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They need to make it nice first, to reel people in. Once they are in and invested, that's when ads start.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

It's a classic (enshittification tactic)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well that sounds enshitty.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

wait till you see the -ification.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

that's when they start filtering out the genuine content and show you mostly promoted stuff

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep. that's the classic shitty business model

  • Make a site that's attractive to use for a lot of people

  • Once you have enough people, lock in the users with network effect, walled garden, etc

  • Use the users to draw in businesses

  • Lock in the businesses and squeeze them for profit.

  • Squeeze users and businesses for money, abandon any maintenance and improvement on the site except for monetization.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

It's the 3 D's.

  1. Develop the product
  2. Draw people in
  3. Dump a nice steamy log on the whole thing
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

They have to build social inertia first. This is something Facebook figured out a long time ago and is well-documented. They were begging for money from investors to keep the site running and Zuck refused to run ads because the site was still growing like crazy.

It might be years yet before they start running ads but rest assured they will eventually.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't raise temperature while the frog is in the pond.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don't understand this metaphor. Is it about frog breeding for later eating? Why else would you want to heat your pond, irrespective of the frog. And why is there a greater incentive to heat the pond when there's no frog, and vice versa? So many questions!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I interpreted it as you don't heat the pot while the frog is still in the pond. You only apply heat slowly once the front is already in the pot.

Don't load up the ads until the users are already on Threads. Wait until they are active on Threads, then crank up the ads when it's more difficult for the users to leave.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And this is why it’s not a good idea to federate with Threads.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On the contrary, that's how you get an ad-free access to Threads content.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Interesting that you think that I may be interested in Threads content.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Interesting that you think that I may be interested in Threads content.

I'm not interested in what content you are interested in. You (Edit: Not even you, gravitas_deficiency. Why even interject as if you were the person I replied to?) made a comment regarding blocking Threads content for everyone. Let everyone decide for themselves which accounts to follow, don't promote not to federate at all just because you personally don't want to follow accounts there. Just don't click the follow button, duh.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Go to some junk instance that's willing to federate if you want.

Federating with Threads makes an instance unacceptable as far as most of us are concerned. Their mere existence is malignant.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

9/10 of the most followed accounts on Fedi are on Threads, so you may not, but clearly many many people do.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are myriad reasons not to federate with Threads.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

bold of you to assume that ads won't just be disguised as regular posts (and therefore federate)

Edit: after reading the article I heavily suspect ads will federate. As is they are just specially marked posts so I see no reason to think they won't federate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

My instance is defederated from threads. At the time I mildly disagreed with that decision. Federated ads would vindicate that decision. I don't need threads content that badly.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's why they have stealth enshittification techniques to disguise them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That’s why they have stealth enshittification techniques to disguise them.

Promotional posts don't magically show up on Mastodon for users who don't follow the brand account that posted them. That's not how Mastodon works.

If I were to follow Marvel Comics via Mastodon, boosted a post, then my followers would see the post, just as they would see the post if I made a screenshot from a Marvel tweet and posted that to Mastodon but Marvel posts would not just show up for random Mastodon users just because Marvel paid Meta to promote a post on Threads. Only Threads website and app users would see such posts.

It's amazing how uninformed Fediverse users are of the basics of how the Fediverse works.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago

Tomorrow.

That’s when.

Stop using meta services.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, Threads Pro will have you covered for an ad reduction for 3.99/mo.! And Threads Pro Plus for 5.99/mo. will get rid of them all by 2030!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Your prices are optimistically low. They’ll probably be double that and lock features behind the more expensive plan.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

‘no immediate timeline’ toward monetization

Soo, starting tomorrow

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

We know what enshittification looks like now. Just because you restart it doesn’t mean it’s not obvious where it ends up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't get why anyone even uses it. There are other better options that aren't run by Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It's an awareness thing. Everyone uses it because everyone else uses it, because it's the main one people know about, because Meta has unlimited money to market it and scale it, which are exorbitantly expensive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Most people are some combination of lazy, uninformed, stressed, and stupid. Can't think long term, just trying to get to tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Not complicated.

  1. The value of any social network is its' users more than anything. They'll use it in spite of it being super shitty if the people they want to follow are on it.

  2. Threads basically created "one-click account creation" with Instagram so the onboarding was seamless.

  3. They capitalized on the Muskification of Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Lmao, called it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tried Threads briefly. It’s full of the same people who comment on or create Facebook reels. Insta-political trolling, deliberately wrong info just to get people to comment and correct it, “I’m stupidly out of the loop on this ridiculously popular topic, can someone tell me why [thing] is?” Just to get every know-it-all to reply. Like every low-effort post on Reddit ever.

Couple that with the inability to sort, and the inability for notifications to take you to the post you were having a discussion on, and I gave up after about 3-4 days.

The platform sucks and so do the participants.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I have tried Threads, and I really can't recall when was the last time I wasn't impressed at all by something.

This doesn't help.the situation at all.

Hell, Musk's Twitter is a better option to explore than Threads.

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