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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Back in the day this was even better:

Original Galaxy S battery was getting weak? Order a new battery from Amazon for 13€. Battery arrives, pop the back of the phone off, pull battery out (just like that, no soldering), push new battery in. Push the back of the phone back on, done.

New battery in and it had more mAh than the original one. Despite overclocking that phone it ran a day longer after the replacement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was an even bigger benefit that most people maybe didn't realise at that time or even now, but when the phone fell that energy got distributed into the parts flying apart, which used to reduce the damage the phone took

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's part of what makes the Noikia 3310 so infamously hard to damage from dropping it, even at extreme heights. It's designed to come apart on impact instead of staying in one piece and taking the full brunt of the impact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for reminding me of how I used to never worry about battery life cause the moment one got low, I'd just pop a spare out of my backpack and continue on with my day. Batteries were so freaking cheap!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this post reads like grandma telling her kids about how phones were in her day!
"When I was young, we'd just pop the back off the phone and replace the battery ourselves."
"Yea yea grandma. Let's get you to bed."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

New Fairphones still have that feature.

But those were also made with repair in mind.

You can literally replace your usb-c port for 15€ with original parts by yourself, by spending 15 minutes with a screwdriver.

And the parts of a Fairphone 2 are still available, nearly 8 years after it launched.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Or, better yet, you should be able to hot swap the battery, which means that you can change one half of the battery, then the second half and the phone won’t shut down at all. Foldables make it easier since they already use 2 batteries, 1 for each half. Just wire them up in parallel and the voltage won’t drop when one is taken out for replacement by the user.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the EU has its way we might all get this.

One can hope.

People can babble about water proofing, etc. There is no legitimate engineering problem.

The battery could power the device wirelessly at this point.

They could even claim they're saving the environment by not including the battery after a couple release cycles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oof i didn't think of them selling the battery separate possibly with an upcharge. monkeys paw curls

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You probably also didn't think about them no longer making the battery two years after releasing the phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had that issue with an Otterbox case. Bought it, it was bulky but protected the phone well. After 3 years the rubber tore near the charging port. They offer "lifetime" warranty (5 years). Well, wrote them for a replacement and they simply said nah, they don't have that case any more for a phone this "old". So they didn't honor the warranty and just told me I'm out of luck.

What the hell do I buy an expensive phone case for when they can't even honor a 5 year warranty? That was the last Otterbox for me, Spigen was the choice I went with afterwards. Can't go wrong with a 10 buck phone case, I don't care if it breaks in a few years.

When it comes to phones every manufacturer just gives you the finger if it's 3+ years old it seems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Third party has always been the solution to this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but then you have to wade through a million crappy Chinese products and be thankful when they merely don't hold a charge (as opposed to exploding).

I've been through this back when batteries were replaceable, decent 3rd-party were not easy to find. Best you could hope for was that the original manufacturer kept making them. Nokia went as far as making one battery model work with multiple phone models.

Honest question, are phone batteries recycleable? Because if there's going to be a ton of them being made I have to wonder what's worst for the environment, replacing phones or replacing batteries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if you're being serious but replacing a phone is the same as replacing a battery, but worse for both consumer and environment. Of course you'd want to do some research before purchasing the first thing that crosses your path, but both me and my wife have done this before many times with very good results.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

just like that, no soldering

There's never any soldering involved when replacing batteries tho?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

But customers want water-proof devices! Therefore we cannot make batteries replacable, it's not what the market wants you know /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just buy a Fairphone end enjoy the exact same thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fairphone sounds great but currently has a poor price to performance ratio

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You pay extra because the materials were sourced through moral means and not sweatshops.

I for one like that feature.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I only stick to my Note 9 (peak Samsung) because of stylus support that no one else offers. When Fairphone stars offering as awesome stylus support as Samsung does, I'm moving immediately.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The batteries are not soldered even in the newest Samsung phones. Everything you'd want to replace is modular. Not sure about Apple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also not soldered on any iPhone but for sure stuck behind several layers of adhesive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"your phone is missing some parts"

I'm sorry what? Did they fall out when I turned it to the side?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I used to do 3rd party repairs, and it's impossible to describe how fucked up some devices were that came to me from other repair places. Missing screws, shields, screws put back int he wrong places and occasionally they had worked with a bad tech that damaged the mainboard.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This makes no sense. How does a working phone "miss a few vitals parts" necessary to replace battery?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The genius bar is pretty infamous for largely being staffed by idiots

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well that's because there all college kids. Apple is all about the perception not the reality.

Apple but more effort into designing the aesthetic of the store than they do training the staff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They claimed my daughter's phone had a cracked screen and couldn't replace the battery, while showing a picture of the very clearly not cracked screen.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

there's a channel on YouTube, by louis rossman. you'll find plenty of examples of bs answers from apple tech support in order to make you spend a great deal of money.

~~furthermore, nowhere it talks about "vital parts". So yeah, it makes no sense, but for other reasons.~~

Read your comment twice, now I got what you mean. took me a bit, but you're definitely right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I imagine this is how Apple would justify it - if there are internal screws or shields missing then it's a sign that it has been repaired previously by a 3rd party. It might work fine, but it's not to the original Apple specification.

The Apple store don't want to take responsibility for those repairs so refuse to do further work in case it leaves them with liability.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's almost like Apple is incredibly anti-consumer, and go out of their way to make buying a new phone more appealing than trying to repair the one you have

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You think Apple is bad, let me tell you about a company named John Deere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh mate, I'm aware of John Deere and their "but we can't let the farmers repair their own equipment because the environment"

Yes, because independent repair shops are definitely going to sabotage your tractors to make them worse for the environment if you don't step in and stop them!

It's totally not about establishing a monopoloy to force farmers to pay exorbitant repair charges, or face paying for a whole new tractor entirely when you refuse to do repairs. Not at all!

/s in case it wasn't obvious

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not a competition, they can both be shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm honestly glad that Apple products aren't popular in my country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for being honest

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple was shit during the Steve Jobs iphone years, too. Just ask Louis Rossman (used to do mac repair videos on YT, nowadays mostly talks about current computer stuff)

Oh, and the iphone 4 had a "feature" where holding the phone "wrong" made it lose all signal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How are they only just now coming to that conclusion.

A screen replacement for an iPhone is like 80% of the price of the new phone. They've been doing this for years now. This isn't a great revelation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, they own an iPhone to begin with, slow on the uptake is part of the aesthetic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Happened to my friend. His son dropped his phone one time too many and facial recognition didn't work from them on.

He took the phone to the service center and was told the true depth sensor was broken and would need to be replaced. Cost was 38000 INR to replace when the entire phone cost around 65000 INR.

He said fuck it and came back. After a couple of weeks, it started working on its own.

Genius scamsters, alright.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

And it sells like fresh cookies

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is such a fake and dumb story and largely why 4chan post 2005 is so shallow. These kids don't have the writing skills to write anything remotely convincing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, everyone knows apple fix things for free, instantly with magic and a blowjob on the side. Apple anti consumer? Never heard of it