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[–] [email protected] 223 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Really happy to see replaceable batteries! It's a wear item and guaranteed to brick your device after a number of years if they aren't replaceable.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Replaceable batteries are coming to the EU in general, at least for portable devices, via the EU Batteries Regulation, which is in force already and requires all portable batteries to be easily removable and replaceable by the end user from 2027

[–] [email protected] 87 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

EU has single handedly done more to improve ~~myself~~ my life than my own government with this one law.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i hope this eu law makes it happen elsewhere, if anything for them to take better advantage of the economy of scale.

and if they dont ill be coveting some eu devices.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

They probably calculate cost saved by economy of scale, vs profit generated from planned obsolescence in other markets.

Might be more profitable to run different SKUs.

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 8 months ago (34 children)

The comments on this post are entirelly missing the point. Jesus christ lemmy. Yes, we know you like 3.5 mm jacks. That is not the point. The point is that FairPhone launched earphones with ANC with replaceable batteries. This is good!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We're allowed to want both.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes we are and that's okay we're not against headphone jacks, it's just that this post right here is about wireless earbuds

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 8 months ago (39 children)

Let's not forget this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdL0StldJM

Wired headphones do not have the need for replaceable batteries.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

And get caught on everything.

I can't be bothered with the inconvenience of wires. Bluetooth quality is good enough for what I need it for, and the convenience of simply putting them on gives me sound is hard to beat.

I have a pair of noise-canceling Bluetooth headphones (not buds) from 2008 that still work. Battery life isn't what it was, but whatever - they work fine for how I use them (as one pair of several). I could replace the battery if I felt like it, just not worth the effort.

But I get that some people prefer the wired for their use-case.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago (12 children)

The simple point is, no one forces you to use wires. Bluetooth has been a thing for decades.

But basically every (yes some exceptions) company that makes phones forced you to use wireless ones.

And in the case of Fairphone it is just simply hypocritical.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And in the case of Fairphone it is just simply hypocritical.

I agree. I get that they're a business and all but I haven't seen a legitimate explanation for them removing headphone jacks and, like every other manufacturer, simultaneously introducing expensive Bluetooth ones.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (14 children)

The only reason the headphone jack was ever removed is to sell you wireless earbuds.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

People will deny this but this is the only real reason for doing that. The other reason is copying apple, which isn't really another reason as apple removed it for the first reason. Fairphone just went the extra mile to claim that headphones are wasteful, in essence they're making an excuse to cover up their reason why and also trying to force others to do it as well.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A follow-up video "Why I was wrong about fairphone" by Louis Rossmann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAogtqyN22M

Still critical of lack of audio jack but praises FairPhone for including list of all components and board view of where each part is located and a complete schematic. In comparison to other phones manufacturers that's night and day of repair-ability.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Buds can be used without an app, but they really should open source it if they really care about long term sustainability.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Imo its fine if they open source it when they decide to end support. The fact that app has a pristine privacy record is good enough

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (10 children)

> only support AAC and SBC codecs

> available for 149

Eh.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I had at least hoped for FastStream. (Essentially bidirectional SBC for good quality audio while using the microphone)

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (38 children)

Please, just give us back the headphone jacks!

Or let us amputate the legs of techbros (they're obsolete in the world of cars and electric wheelchairs).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

My 3.5mm AUX says hello

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you guys notice how many ventors that website shares your data with??

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

816, oof. The internet is unusable without the proper precautions

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (15 children)

Every time it comes up I must lament the switch to screens too tall to watch content, the decision to remove wired 3.5mm jacks in order to drive sales of wireless headphones, the switch to increasingly fewer physical buttons. No more IR blaster.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Their website has a page that says they "embrace open source"

I couldn't find the source code specifically for their app. Maybe this?

https://github.com/fairphone/android_device_fairphone_FP5

Honestly have no clue what I'm looking at there. There seems to be no iOS equivalent, so who knows.

Otherwise, their app permissions seem pretty reasonable:

• discover and pair nearby Bluetooth devices
• Access Bluetooth settings
• Pair with Bluetooth devices
• connect to paired Bluetooth devices

But yeah, if no open source, that can definitely be a deal-breaker for the market they seem to be targeting.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If only they shipped to the US...at least, I didn't see that option.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (8 children)

I'd much prefer a 3.5mm jack

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (13 children)

There are a plethora of cable earphones.
I don't understand why people complain about wireless.
You're not the target demographic.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Wired 3.5mm jack.

Hear me out. I don’t use Bluetooth headphones. They don’t last the commute and work day.

With a jack you can listen and charge you phone at the same time and never worry about charging your headphones/iem.

If I need to use Bluetooth for connection I still can but overall better battery life

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

Which ones are you referring to? What's is your actual use time, like 8+ hours a day without charging? I use cheap generic MPOW ones I got for $40 and they easily last me at least 2 days

fun edit:

With a jack you can listen and charge you phone at the same time

With wireless headphones you can also charge your phone and listen at the same time

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