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I made wanderer - a self-hosted trail and GPS track database (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Over the last two months, I developed wanderer. It is a self-hosted alternative to sites like alltrails.com or in other words a self-hosted trail database. It started out more as a small hobby project to teach myself some new technologies but in the end, I decided to develop it into a fully-fledged application.

Core Features:

Manage your trails
Extensive map integration and visualization
Share trails with other people and explore theirs
Advanced filter and search functionality
Create custom lists to organize your trails further
Chique design with a dark and light theme
Fully mobile compatible

wanderer is completely open-source. You can find the GitHub repo here: https://github.com/Flomp/wanderer

wanderer is still under active development so if you encounter any bugs/errors or have suggestions please let me know here or open an issue on GitHub.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Strava has continued to enshittify the app to the point that I'm getting ads after every activity. Anyway, I decided to delete it after yesterday's run and will keep an eye on this project. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean after the price hike they also hiked the number of ads? I canceled when they hiked the price and managed to get it down to the old price a few months later, so I renewed for the personal heatmap. Looks like I'm definitely canceling again. I doubt they'll give me the price break twice anyway.

Baking ads into a timeline like Strava and some other apps do has to be the worst app trend ever.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you just like the personal heat map then checkout grrrmin_heatmap. It's a pretty flexible python script for generating them.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fittrackee has been what I use instead of Strava. Also FOSS.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I removed my account a few years ago when they moved a bunch of features behind their paywall. I'm perfectly fine just using Garmin's built in 'news feed' and tracking without giving my data to another company.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Strava has ads now? I use NextDNS on my devices so assuming this is filtering out their ads.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Strava lost me when they jacked up prices while simultaneously not providing a dark mode and continuing to neglect their paying users' requests to acquire some semblance of control over their feed.

I'm a mountain biker and I like to see my friends' mountain bike rides. Instead my feed is jam-packed full of dog-walkers, Trainer Road and Zwift ads, and suggested/recommended "challenges" and "clubs".

I'm done. Yet another platform relegated to "post and ghost".

[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago

I LOVE THIS.

Self hosted, GOOD LOOKING (rarity in FOSS), nice to use and privacy-aiding.

Thank you so much!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

This is an excellent use case for a self hosted service, since location data is frequently used for nefarious purposes.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

The screenshot looks awesome! I'm currently on vacation and will definitely try it out.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Welcome to Lemmy! I recently posted about Wanderer also in another self-hosting community: https://slrpnk.net/post/7887187

As someone interested in self-hosting this, I have two questions:

How far is it suitable for say a local hiking association or a small municipal government to use this as a public trail database to promote regional eco-tourism efforts? Where I live the local government has something like that, but it is badly maintained. For that to work it would need to have the ability to easily find trails on an overview map and to allow posting notices about trail closures etc. (ideally even crowd sourced?) Maybe also some way to mark trails as official, if they are designated and sign-posted.

Unrelated: have you thought about allowing the live-tracking via apps like Phonetrack or OSMand? I think that would make it both more convenient for uploading tracks (at least where there is sufficient cell-coverage) and might add an interesting social aspect to it if you can share your live-location with other users.

P.S.: Would be great if you could add it to https://translate.codeberg.org/ for adding additional languages easily.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Thanks for promoting wanderer! Finding trails on the map should be no problem, you can currently mark trails as public so that not logged-in users can see the trail. I have thought of steering wanderer towards a more socially interactive platform. I think a good first step would be to allow comments and implement a rating system.

Thanks for the crowdsourced translation website. I was looking for something like this. I will set it up and add it to the contributing section of the documentation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Would be nice with activity pub support for sharing planned and recorded trails. Cone to think of it. Does it make that distinction? Planned vs recorded? How about a planning, route finding mode?

Kudos to your project so far!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. Do you mean creating a trail from scratch on the map without recording it before? That is indeed on my roadmap.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That and sharing it with other users through the ActivityPub protocol (what Lemmy uses)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I see. I'm unfamiliar with the protocol, but sharing trails is definitely on the roadmap. So I will look into it!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wanted to ask this. Is it difficult to implement activity pub? That would be awesome. It looks beautiful

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Question: why would I want to self-host this to use while I'm in the woods with no service, as opposed to an app on my device?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I think you might misunderstand what wanderer does. It is not a maps service like Open Street Maps. It's simply a database in which you can store your GPS tracks. So the workflow would look like this: you are in the woods and record your track (e.g. with osmand) -> you store your track in GPX format -> you upload your track (and any additional info like a description or photos) to wanderer -> before your next adventure you check wanderer to decide what you want to do

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

An after action report, basically?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You compared the service to AllTrails, which is a trail exploration and planning app. Like, walk down the trail and follow the map for navigation.

Can you log your trips without an active data connection?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Logging trips offline requires background location services. This does not work for a simple website. You would need to program an app for that. While this is a plan somewhere down the line, it's still far away. So currently I would recommend relying on an external app to log your trip and import afterwards.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

To plan, organize or review routes.

This seems more like Garmin Basecamp, it's not supposed to be used on the routes themselves I'm guessing.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Looks cool, just starred

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Wow. I aspire to be as knowledgeable as you one day. This motivated me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Very interesting, I like the screenshots! Will definitely check this out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Soooo cool! If it could get from gpx the dates when activities where made, autoimport multiple gpx files, bug fixing, tableview (small overview from all activities) it will be my Strava killer..

Great work! Thx

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How do I change port to something else? 3000 is already used by Gitea :)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

With docker you can simply change the port mapping in the compose file

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

This is ripe for multiuser and federation

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

This looks awesome, thanks for posting!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Just cross-posted this to OpenSource. Thank you so Mich. This is great.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is very nice :) I was working on a proof of concept similar to this to have a quick search functionality for FrankenJura (german hiking database) but it was lost in a drawer due to lack of time 😁 Great work and thanks for sharing it :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Happy to help. If you can get a dump of the database it should be quite easy to import it into wanderer via the API 👍

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If I recall correctly, I couldn‘t find API endpoints back then and had to browse/prse the pges based on the regions and the links on the landing pages 😅

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Any chance to pack it into a single container instead of three? Would make it easier to work with unraid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Database is rarely, if ever bundled into the app container, unless it's SQLite.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

This looks amazing! Going to play with it tonight. Thanks!!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

These may be answered elsewhere, but like some other interested people in this post, I fully intend on trying to load a copy of this when I get home from vacation.

What methods/devices do you use to upload/sync the data? Other than a regular smart phone, were you able to use other GPS enabled devices like garmin or apple smart watches?

And system requirements?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

You can use whatever device you prefer. In the end, you simply need a GPX file that you upload through the web UI or the API. I am planning to support other formats like KML soon, though.

System requirements should be quite low. On the first startup you will need ~1GB of RAM. After that, the whole stack sits at around 100MB on my machine.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What's the scope of this, just a route catalogue or will it sort of become a hiking tracker as well?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

wanderer currently parses distance, elevation gain, duration and speed. Parsing heart rate would be an easy addition, though.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nice ! You made me think of spinning up a little server. It's been a while since I've dabbled in managing a server and not aure I have the time for that. But you made the chances if me going for it much higher.

Would a raspberry pi 4 be enough for running it ?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Absolutely. I have it running on a Pi 5 and that's more than enough. You only need 1GB of RAM when first starting wanderer. After that it sits at around 100Mb.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Love it.

I've been willing to learn more about programming with location/map data so definitely checking this out.

Are you looking for contributions or help on anything? I think I might at least look at providing a Dutch translation for the front-end if you're accepting PRs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Absolutely all help is welcome. Please check out the roadmap for my current plans. I'd be delighted if you could add your Dutch translation here: https://translate.codeberg.org/projects/wanderer/wanderer/nl/

Dank je wel!

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