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For anyone wondering if Threads and Facebook at large will be a fine neighbor in the space and compatible with other apps/services in the fediverse: they’re already automatically hiding comments that mention Pixelfed https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112126250737482807

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[–] [email protected] 426 points 9 months ago (29 children)

Repeat after me: I will not federate with any Meta products.

[–] [email protected] 156 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will not federate with any meta products.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will not federate with any meta products.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will not federate with any meta products.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will not federate with any meta products

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I will not federate with any meta products

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Serious question: how do we - the end users - stop federating with Meta?

[–] [email protected] 134 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Move to an instance that won't.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Migrate away from instances that embrace Meta to those that do not. Choose an instance that aligns with you.

Or in the extreme case, if you're the first who can't find such an instance and you're technically inclined, there's your room for a new instance. It's how the fediverse works and partly why Meta is so intent on destroying it.

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[–] [email protected] 272 points 9 months ago (9 children)

mEtA wOnT dEsTrOy ThE fEdIvErSe. wE sHoUlD lEt tHrEaDs In

[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago

Let's just give them a chance guys. They haven't done anything bad yet. It will help the fediverse grow. We need their content

wE cAn AlwAyS dEfeDeraTe lAtEr. It dEfinIteLy WoN'T bE tOo LaTe tHeN

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[–] [email protected] 198 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (10 children)

I was one of those people that said “let’s see if they will be acceptable neighbors” and well, it seems we have an answer.

If it’s true then I now favor defederation.

Edit: it sounds like this wasn’t true.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean who could've seen something like this coming?

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago

After so many positive experiences with the charming and wholesome company Meta, now this completely out of the blue...

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s not just true, there’s a history of this mentioned in the replies to the original masto comment. Pixelfed is a direct competitor/alternative to instagram and meta’s has a pretty clear policy of not giving it any airtime on their platforms.

Why, well they dominate the instagram style platform space (and I’d guess it’s their biggest platform ATM and most prospective going forward). Twitter-style platforms are new for them and introduce monopoly issues … so they toy with the fediverse to allay potential issues.

I think all of the schmoozing the likes of Evan, Gargron etc are doing with meta (they have active accounts on Threads AFAIU, for instance) will reveal their true colours (techbro growth mindset just the hipster way) and leave them with egg on their face.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I have to post this again sorry

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 9 months ago (3 children)

But surely meta has good intentions and we should totally trust them guys!!1!

[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago

Why is everyone so opposed to ~~cancer~~ Threads coming to the Fediverse?

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It'd be a damn shame if everyone started putting pixelfed at the end of every message to both deny threads content and create a Streisand effect.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Huh, well look at that. Meta being exactly as bad a corporate citizen as one would expect. This is why defederation is wise. I have no patience for the folks who think we're somehow not being fair to poor old Meta.

Support the fedipact.

Push your instance to defederate.

They are not and will never be a positive contributor to the fediverse. It's another thing to exploit, enshittify, and ruin for them, that's all.

https://wedistribute.org/2023/06/fedipact-blocking-meta/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook#Criticisms_and_controversies

Edit: I'll be one more guy posting this link so interested folks can easily check if their instance has defederated, and make a decision from there. https://fedipact.veganism.social/

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is a by-the-book and extremely predictable case of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I wish I could go back to a Lemmy thread showing how Mastodon and other Fediverse instances were blocking Meta ahead of it's integration, where people went "Oh you're just being paranoid, why would they do that?" And when given examples of companies taking open standards and either making themselves the biggest source of users or killing it (Microsoft, Google, Apple) they either went "Well that happened in 2006, it's 2023!"

I know the bootlickers wouldn't actually change their mind, but jesus christ. It's frustrating for groups of advocates to be ignored and proven right each time. Cassandra syndrome is real.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago

they're so scared of us you can't even talk about us on their shitty platforms. that should tell you a lot

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Who didn't this coming? Seriously, meta will take what they want to increase the capital and makes everything else invisible.

Fediverse isn't here to say yes to everything. We have the freedom to say no and this is the power of the fediverse. It's allowing and denying. And Meta is a threat to the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I just..

I just do not get the twitter framework for social media. Like I appreciate you mastodon bros, but what the hell is actually going on over there. I had the same issue with twitter. What the hell even is this?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

It's an convenient way to post about some trending topic, without creating a whole new community for something temporary. For example the eurovision sing festival, or some natural disaster that happened.

And on the other hand, it works for expressing some personal thoughts or memes without having to adhere to a specific topic. But with random strangers instead of only your facebook friends.

I think for these kind of needs, no other social media framework would comply better.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If I am not mistaken, it's an open source Instagram alternative.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ah I see. I am now suitably enraged.

(/s I hate Meta vehemently of course)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I didn't know either so I looked it up for you.

https://pixelfed.org/

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I tested this and I did not got blocked or anything. https://www.threads.net/@mogoh_viol/post/C4xsvpKMZb8 So I assume, this was just an accident.

I know everybody loves to hate meta, I am am not a fan either, but I find it hard to belive that they outright ban the word pixelfed.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I pray to God (or whoever I have to) that the .world admins rethink their federation decision.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago

Stop praying and just move to an instance that defederates with Threads. It's really not hard.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What a weak thing for such a big company to do. Censor the mention of an open source competitor that almost no one uses.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pixelfed pixelfed pixelfed

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (4 children)

TIL about Pixelfed :) I will be signing up.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Does this mean that if we always mention pixelfed or @pixelfed we can effectively block Meta from leveraging our contributions to the Fediverse?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ironically I wouldn't have heard of it if it werent for this, so Streisand effect in action.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (7 children)

What's the point of planning to integrate with activitypub if they do shit like this?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago

Stage 1 of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

Im SOOOO surprised. /s

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The only thing that saved Meta/Web3 from creating a special hell where digital rent seeking pervades all social interaction is that capitalism is too advanced at this point to create a market before trying to squeeze every last drop of blood out of it.

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