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Romeo Chicco’s auto insurance rate doubled because of information about his speeding, braking and acceleration, according to his complaint.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm rootin for ya, Florida Man

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For once it's not a crazy headline. It feels like the Florida men are always doing weird stuff

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because they have open records for police activity. The same crazy stuff probably happens in your area, it's just not required to be public information.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty impressive that lack of privacy in a single state can create an entire stereotype about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just goes to show how releasing information selectively (in this case, just 1 state) can influence public sentiment and stereotypes.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

No no no, that's just "Florida Man", that's the one dude you keep hearing about. Florida Georg is a statistical outlier and should not be counted.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Finally, a positive Florida Man story

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago

Florida Man is Chaotic Neutral, it has no purpose, no goals only the exploration of what is possible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Not sure it's positive; given the US' asinine privacy laws, I don't see this going anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago

The most sane news headline starting with "Florida man"

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don't worry, we've seen this before. Case dismissed because of lack of standing, due to the fact that there were no damages.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

His rates doubling wouldn't be considered damages?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah a case similar to this just got shot down in Washington state for that exact reason.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Double insurance rates don't qualify?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s not damage, it’s profit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Is that really how the law sees it?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Finally, the hero we need!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://consumer.risk.lexisnexis.com/consumer

You can go here to get a copy of your report.

If you're in California you can limit their collection and dissemination in the future and have your data deleted.

If you dig into your car's infotainment system to opt out of everything you can find, don't forget any app you might have installed.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Louis Rossmam did a video on it. I think it's both on odyssey and youtube

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That was about a Chevy Volt, not a Cadillac.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

GM owns Chevy and Cadillac. There's literally no difference between the two except exterior branding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I just think that details matter. All Cadillacs are GM, all Chevys are GM, not all GMs are either of those. But yeah, fundamentally, GM does this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Interesting, they should team up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

These different car manufacturers couldn't possibly use the same 3rd-party data service?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see this post is old enough that my comment is less likely to be seen but i feel this is a somewhat relevant anecdote regarding the sale of automotive data.

last april i bought a used car. i had not owned or driven a vehicle in well over a decade. i had never operated a vehicle with a computer, not like the kind this car had at least with its 'infotainment' console and numerous digital featrures. one such 'feature' was the navigation system. a map on the little tv in the console would show me directions after i entered an address into it. how useful!

i was taking a trip to visit my grandparents not long after buying the car and to test out the navigation system, i entered their address into it. it failed to give me correct directions however, since the nav system was ran off an SD card inserted into a port inside the storage space between the driver and passenger seats. the car was made in 2013 and the sole previous owner had never used the nav system. the SD card was in its original packaging, unopened and in the glove box.

i ended up visiting the grandparents by finding their home by memory, the way i normally navigate, and went on with my life. after that weekend, i learned the car had a recall. i could take it to a authorized dealership and have the faulty system replaced at no cost to me. so i did just that. the recalled part was supposedly fixed and all seemed well.

a week or two passes and i get a call from my grandfather. he recieved mail addressed to me, asking if i wanted to sell my vehicle. my name, his address. i have never searched for his address on the internet, i know it by memory. the only place i have ever entered the location was in that car navigation system. i have never even spoken the address out loud nor heard it spoken in several decades, so those who believe phone are always recording with their microphones.

i believe the only way that mail could have been sent in my name to their address, was through the navigation system data being downloaded from the car and sold to third parties. my grandparents have recieved several pieces of mail addressed to me since then. always, it is referencing my vehicle, with the correct make, model and year showing.

i will never trust ford or purchase their products ever again. i should have known better than to have purchased this car, but it was a very good price with only one previous owner and a great carfax report.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

i will never trust ford

Every car company does it now. You cannot buy a car that isn't selling your data.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

So far this is the best automated account deletion and opt-out request software I’ve found: https://www.permissionslipcr.com/

For some companies it’s push-button. For others it can only initiate the requests. But so far it works as advertised.

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