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I am looking to move on from spotify, what music streaming service pays the artists the best while still having a large library.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keeping a local library on your phone and computer.

No need to worry about if a streaming service changes anything, not pepetual bulls just to listen to music

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I generally do this for all my media, but I will never do this for music, there's just such a huge lack of discoverability. Are you just never seeking out new music on the fly?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

https://www.music-map.com

Oh, you like Cattle Decapitation? Then you might like Skinless, Guttural Secrete, Devourment, Pig Destroyer, Rivers of Nihil...

It's not good with really new artists (e.g., The Anchoret, Temic), and artists that have had significant shifts over their careers might give you overly broad results. But it gives you some starting points.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This brings me to an interesting phenomenom with me, I tend to dislike contemporary music, but about 10 years later or so I wtart to really enjoy it.

Then I start listening to music on YT, start playing the same song over and over, and start checking out other songs by the artist, and create a playlist on yt where I can listen to those songs over and over, then I start getting ready to buy the songs on iTunes.

Right now, the latest songs I bought on iTunes was from the Red Alert soundtrack from Frank Klepacki, Blue by Eiffel 65, Walk On Water by Milk Inc, two songs from SkyMarshall Arts, a few songs from the Shock Treatment soundtrack, some Scooter songs, and a song from Gina G.

I go through phases where I listen to a particular genere/artist constantly and will then buy a few songs here and there that interest me, in 2022 I was dealing with double flat feet, double heel spurs, a bad knee and more crap, I would drag myself home from the busstop crying from the pain that each step caused, and I just blasted Sabaton constantly, I got energy and was able to keep working both in the office and on getting better.

And when I got better, I started listening to more Eurodance and fun music, so I bought plenty of Dr. Bombay and Dr. Macdoo, and as I bought my first car this summer I got into classical music set to a disco beat and bought Hooked on classics 1, 2 and 3 as well as Hooked on Themes.

So while I don't constantly look for new music, I am not shy of buying it when I find it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tend to dislike contemporary music, but about 10 years later or so I start to really enjoy it.

We used to call these hipsters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Aren't hipsters are the ones that like bands before they are popular.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Personally I use a combination of a large library of mp3s plus I listen to SiriusXM in the car to discover new artists. I also like to go through the backlogs of artists I find I like, and also dig into their earlier/later works

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I strongly recommend Apple Music. It has one of the largest libraries and pays better than YouTube, Amazon, or Spotify.

Apple Music is also platform agnostic; there’s even a browser version now. Also, you can download music and choose the quality. It’s far less “algorithm-y,” which I prefer.

Tidal and Qobuz do pay out more, but have much smaller libraries. I don’t personally like them much. The apps feel subpar.

YouTube and Amazon are straight up bad experiences for me. If this was back in 2013, I’d actually have recommended Google Play Music. RIP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Youtube music after you uploaded your personal library there, it was how I used play music before.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Apple Music and Tidal pay the most per stream, but Tidal has a smaller library than Spotify. It might be different now so not sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anecdotal, I've not actually had a lot of instances (if any) of Spotify having something but Tidal not, usually find albums that I'm interested in from band camp no problem and if it's missing its missing on both. Sound quality is noticeably higher which is the reason I tend to prefer, the app has gotten better in my experience

I have all my digital copies on my NAS with jellyfin to stream them as well, sometimes it's just easier to stream off tidal or Spotify though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

does bandcamp suit you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love Tidal + Plex. I already had a Plex server set up, but the integration with tidal is great. Good music quality, pays the artists well, and no gaps in the library that aren't also there in the other services. When you add Plex you can then fill in those gaps with your own music files.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've recently started hosting my music on Jellyfin and using the symfonium app for android. Symfonium is pretty nice and handles offline files well, plus it has a ton of hosting options including Plex, even some experimental options like dropbox

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Airsonic or plexamp

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of them. Buy music, don't rent access to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please be realistic, who does that in this day and age?

I only know two sides (in the bigger scheme) people who rent it and people who pirate it.

In all kinds of tech media that exists the disc music are the ones that amazes me the most because they still have their spot in certain stores.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I buy all my mysic on iTunes, and have done so for a long time, it makes my music library more focused and I have no worry if loosing access if I can't pay rent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not going to downvote you since I use iTunes for streaming, but when they changed their policy a few years ago about DRM, they fucking deleted about 20 songs I wrote and recorded solo or with my bands. My friends had backups, but man that sucked. So beware, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait, what? That seems odd. They've deleted music videos from my account (which I had the files for, and the videos in question were also pulled from YouTube etc by the band, so I don't think it's apple's fault they were pulled), but I still have all the music I've made myself. I do back it up every 2 or 3 months (I would cry for the rest of my life if I lost it, I have nearly 2yrs of continuous music), but I've never had to restore it (and this has reinforced why I do back up).

Edit: looked it up, I see the issue now. I don't use Apple music, and every instance I can find of this happening is associated with ceasing that subscription. But I just use iTunes and the iTunes store. Dunno how this would work for you since it's your own music (and I dunno if it'd work for music not in the iTunes catalogue, ie stuff from Bandcamp, qobuz, cough cough less than legal methods, etc), but it would appear all you have to do is log in to your account again and re-download the deleted files.

Second edit: just realised I have lost some actual music from my account. The series of live albums that iTunes directly released from the iTunes festivals they ran like 15yrs ago just came to mind. They're gone from my account. And probably a bunch of others. They were never deleted from my hard drive though.