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cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/3226934

The wait is finally over. From 2024, USB-C will be the common standard for electronic devices in the EU – and we have already seen the impact !

It means

  • 🔌The same charger for all phones, tablets and cameras
  • ⚡ Harmonised fast-charging technology
  • 🔄Reduced e-waste

One charger to rule them all.

Now, a reality.

Learn more about the #EUCommonCharger here: https://europa.eu/!hwjj3G

Unbundling the sale of a charger from the sale of the electronic device .

The 'common charging' requirements will apply to all handheld mobile phones, tablets, digital cameras, headphones, headsets, portable speakers, handheld videogame consoles, e-readers, earbuds, keyboards, mice, and portable navigation systems as of 2024. These requirements will also apply to laptops as of 2026. Such transition periods will give industry sufficient time to adapt before the entry into application.

Consumers will be able to purchase a new electronic device without a new charger. This will limit the number of chargers on the market or left unused. Reducing production and disposal of new chargers is estimated to reduce the amount of electronic waste by 980 tonnes yearly

Producers will need to provide relevant visual and written information about charging characteristics, including information on the power the device requires and whether it supports fast charging. This will help consumers understand if their existing chargers meet their new device’s requirements and/or help them select a compatible charger. Combined with the other measures, this will help consumers to limit the number of new chargers purchased and save at least €250 million a year on unnecessary charger purchases.


L'attente est finalement terminée. À partir de 2024, l’USB-C deviendra la norme commune pour les appareils électroniques dans l’UE – et nous avons déjà vu son impact !

Cela signifie

  • 🔌Le même chargeur pour tous les téléphones, tablettes et appareils photo
  • ⚡ Technologie de charge rapide harmonisée
  • 🔄Réduction des déchets électroniques

Un chargeur pour les gouverner tous. Maintenant, une réalité. Pour en savoir plus sur le #EUCommonCharger, cliquez ici : https://europa.eu/!hwjj3G

Les exigences de « charge commune » s'appliqueront à tous les téléphones mobiles portables, tablettes, appareils photo numériques, écouteurs, casques, haut-parleurs portables, consoles de jeux vidéo portables, liseuses électroniques, écouteurs, claviers, souris et systèmes de navigation portables à partir de 2024. Ces exigences s’appliquera également aux ordinateurs portables à partir de 2026. De telles périodes de transition donneront à l’industrie suffisamment de temps pour s’adapter avant l’entrée en application.

Les consommateurs pourront acheter un nouvel appareil électronique sans nouveau chargeur. Cela limitera le nombre de chargeurs sur le marché ou inutilisés. On estime que la réduction de la production et de l'élimination des nouveaux chargeurs permettrait de réduire la quantité de déchets électroniques de 980 tonnes par an.

Les producteurs devront fournir des informations visuelles et écrites pertinentes sur les caractéristiques de charge, y compris des informations sur la puissance requise par l'appareil et s'il prend en charge une charge rapide. Cela aidera les consommateurs à comprendre si leurs chargeurs existants répondent aux exigences de leur nouvel appareil et/ou les aidera à sélectionner un chargeur compatible. Combinée aux autres mesures, cette mesure aidera les consommateurs à limiter le nombre de nouveaux chargeurs achetés et à économiser au moins 250 millions d'euros par an sur les achats inutiles de chargeurs

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 8 months ago (8 children)

I just wish there was a standard for marking the cables, so you could look at the cable and tell what it was capable of. All the cables and chargers look the same but have wildly different capabilities. 

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah i discovered that and i was extremely furious. I bought a usbc cable around 10€ and it wasn't working because the device only supported a certain type of usbc. Apparently, there is some info about information in the eu website.

But i'm not able to understand any technical part...i just want a color : yellow charger/cable go with yellow port. Etc.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I have stuck labels on all my DP capable cables - it is very annoying not to get video output, and "does this cable even work for video" being one of the things you need to debug.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Since everyone here seems so confused by USB naming schemes, a short primer:

USB 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, and USB4 are the major and minor revision number of the standard. You don't have to worry about it if you are not implementing it yourself.

The Gen number indicates the supported transfer speed, Gen 1 is 5Gbps, Gen 2 is 10, Gen 3 is 20, regardless of the spec revision.

(USB 2.0 is 480mbps)

Dual lane (Gen ?x2) means you take the speed of the Gen number and multiply it by 2.

The only major difference between USB 3 and 4 is that USB4 uses Type C plug only, whereas USB 3 can use a variety of connectors.

All USB-PD compliant cables support up to 100w of power delivery, only cables labeled as EPR (extended power range) supports up to 240w of power.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also, USB4 can optionally support PCIe tunneling, which is a fancy way of saying it supports plugging more advanced types of hardware in (like GPUs, high-speed network cards or NVMe SSDs) at speeds of up to 40Gbps.

And there is USB4 v2 (not kidding, that's the name) which extends USB4 to up to 80Gbps, but there are no devices that support that yet.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn't there a change in how USB is represented now? They should now have the max speed and power on the cable/adapter

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What the above user is saying is how it's listed in specs and technical documents

What you are saying is how the USB IF recommends it be marketed. In theory, yours is the only one the average person should worry about these days

However in the real world it's an absolute mess of OEMs advertising their ports as being one or the other naming schemes, or neither and just saying "USB"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Also to add to this, the USB-C connector is perfectly compatible with the actual USB data protocol all the way back to the original USB (1.0) in low speed mode (with its mind-dazzling 1.5Mb/s speed) - all the required pins are still there as are the bits of electrical signalling necessary in the original USB protocol.

It's just that USB-C adds more data lines and other things used in the more modern versions of the USB protocols (including for the newer power protocol - USB-PD, though maintaining backwards compatibility with the old power provision which was controlled via the USB data protocol itself) as well as support for the connector being flippable (works whatever way you plug it in) which is done by basically having the original lines appear twice, one on each side of the connector.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I really like this. Being able to just buy bunch of newest generation Type-C and using it everywhere is awesome.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The best part is that you can help your friends. :3

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Any news on if they are going after Nintendo for it's non-standard implementation of usb-c?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Nintendo's USB-C on the Switch is standard compliant, but modified in a way to allow for smooth plugging into their own docks, which requires a much tighter tolerance.

Cheap third party docks cannot meet the tolerance required for smooth plugging, and the dock that was tested was not even PD compliant but tried to implement the handshake for high power in software instead, which was what caused the bricking of the Switch.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So what is the standard fast charging solution they've choosen?

The site doesn't say.

Are we going to see USB-PD in more phones now?

I'd love to see all the different manufacturers standards bugger off.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ive seen USB C accessories work in one socket and not in another and it pisses me off way too much. If anyone can decide on what is the protocol the connector is hardly universal. Making sure a particular charger will be 100% compatible with your accessories involves long research into confusing acronyms and then it doesn't work when you buy it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

There is a section of useful links on the page. 9 links in total. One of them is a factsheet on proposed common charger.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It sure seems like the EU has their shit together on more stuff than we do. We can only break shit that was already fixed because reasons. I know the EU is not perfect but they sure seem to get stuff right more often than not. At least Apple won’t go through the trouble of making two iPhones for no reason other than to just be an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The EU cares about consumer protection because most of the big companies in a position to fuck over customers are based in the US.

It's why Americans don't care about consumer protection. They believe exploitation is okay as long as it's by another American.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

It's probably the closest thing we have to the perfect port for every utility ever, even with its problems.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I am a huge fan of USB-C and have been waiting for it to come to the US for years. I hope that it will be here soon and that more companies will adopt it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

What are you using that doesn't have it? Samsung, Apple, Dell, HP now use it on all phones, Tablets, Laptops. Playstation uses them, Vapes as well. I am unsure what XBOX uses, but usually people use a dock so I haven't looked at the plug.
Not asking as if there isn't a device out there that doesn't use it, but I don't know of any devices I can think of

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Small appliance. For example, 6 months ago, I was looking for a new bike front light and finding one that charged by USB type C was difficult. I thought I might replace my rear light too, but all the simple, reasonably priced ones were micro USB, so I gave up.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (8 children)

I bought a Logitech wireless mouse last year (and a high end, well-reviewed model, to be clear) and was absolutely astounded to see that it charges by microUSB.

My beard trimmer also wasn't USB C but in fairness maybe that's a "we designed this so you can charge it in a wet, steamy bathroom" kinda thing.

eBook readers took ages to finally transition for some reason (faaaaaaar after phones/tablets), but we're now finally there.

Plenty of laptops still use their crappy barrel plugs

My head torch I bought a few weeks ago was microUSB

I went into Lidl and bought a AA/AAA battery recharger, that was microUSB too

Don't get me wrong, most stuff is Type-C now, but microUSB and others still rear their ugly heads a fair bit, and it needs to stop.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Huh? It's been here for years. It's great

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is great news, the only thing I'm wondering is what happens when USB-C becomes obsolete... or if it will ever be improved upon now that there's a huge legal hurdle.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

They'll switch it again. They changed to USB-C from MicroUSB, no reason why the standard could not be updated as necessary.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think wireless will eventually take over.

My biggest concern is really powerful laptops. Mine sometimes uses 250 watts when doing heavy photogrammetry, which is higher than even the new PD standard for USB-C.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that wireless will. Induction charging a laptop at 250W seems like it could conceivably turn your laptop into a nice cooktop.

My biggest concern is really powerful laptops. Mine sometimes uses 250 watts when doing heavy photogrammetry, which is higher than even the new PD standard for USB-C.

At the same time, there's a few years until then, and USB-PD is an actively evolving standard. It doesn't seem implausible for the consortium to extend the standard for high power charging at some point in the next 2+ years, seeing as it was 100W not that long ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh, I don't see wireless doing 300 watt performance laptops, no.

I'm sure they'll push the standard as much as possible, but when it comes down to it the connectors can only handle so much current, and unless they make exceptions for exceptionally powerful devices, we're going to have to start plugging in 2 power wires as performance laptops become increasingly power-hungry.

Edit: I'm wrong. The law specifically exempts devices requiring more than 100 watts, and also didn't require that PD be the only way to charge.

And my performance laptop will run off PD just fine when I'm just doing email or Excel, so I do use a PD docking station pretty often.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I responded to someone else, but I have a gaming laptop that needs the DC Barrel plug for playing games, but also lets you charge it with USB-C (useful for traveling). That would meet the standard set forth, as it is compatible with USB-C charging.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Now it’s time to make batteries user replaceable ;)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Brussels effect at work!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

reduced e-waste

Well I wish the products would be bloody cheaper as well when there's no charger in the package, but no...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Thank you EU!!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wonder when they plan on changing from USB-a to USB-c on airplanes too

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Damn, how long does it take to charge a whole airplane over USB?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

In terms of water proofing, how well does the usb-C port hold up? Water damage is one of the main causes of death for mobile phones. I wanted to see better water proofing overall and wonder if this would be a setback in that regard.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very thrilled to have USB c as the standard.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

I know waterproof Type C ports exist as electrical components. So the test is up to the manufacturer to correctly implement it.

Ultimately, Type C is no worse an option to other ports.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Probably just fine since every phone comes with a lightning or USB C port already and all have their IP65 ratings

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have Honor Magic 5 Pro, and it is rated IP68. Dudes even submerged it on the launch event. I only had it in use once while it was raining and it's okay for now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I would hope literally any phone on the market could survive rain.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My pixel phone had a wave of salt water from the ocean get into the USB-C port. The phone detected the moisture and disabled the port until it was clean and dry. The port still works.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

USB-C can be rated all the way up to IP68, but most manufacturers only go for IP66, because IP67 and IP68 require a lot of additional testing and QA. Even if the port is technically capable of being rated at IP67 or IP 68, the manufacturer will only rate it on the packaging as IP66, so they don’t have to do the additional testing to get the IP68 stamp.

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