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NASA invented wheels that never get punctured::Would you use this type of tire?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

They.. Invented these tyres.. Right? Just because stone wheels were a thing doesn't mean that someone didn't invent wooden wheels.

Invent

Verb: create or design (something that has not existed before); be the originator of.

"he invented an improved form of the steam engine"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah it’s sufficiently novel to be invented as opposed to innovated

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

"he invented an improved form of the steam engine"

Literally the exact point I'm making.

In that statement, he didn't invent the steam engine. He invented an improved form of it. But not the steam engine itself.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

At some point we're just getting bogged down in semantics. Someone invented the internal combustion engine, and the earliest versions ran on gaseous fuels. Somebody else "invented" versions that than on liquid fuels. Engines that ran on petrol (gas) and diesel were "invented" by separate people. Engines based on turbine, reciprocating pistons, and rotary mechanisms were all "invented" by separate people.

The degree to which you consider any of those independent "inventions" versus simply modifying and improving existing inventions is essentially arbitrary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No one has ever invented anything, since we take concepts were familiar with and mix them

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's true. We didn't invent TV or anything...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Correct. Tvs are improvements on still images, which themselves are an improvement on pictographs, which are an improvement on transmission of ideas via language.

To be clear, we very much invented all of that.