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Oh I'm sure that must be a very nice thing to talk out with your mother or significant other.
"Don't worry they are plastering naked pictures of me everywhere, it's all fake"
Is your mother like under the impression that you are a virgin or something? My mother knows where my kids came from.
My mother wouldn't be thrilled to see it happening. Would yours?
Shed likely have a good laugh, because she is not a prude. If she was, I'd care less about what she thinks.
Well if they think that's your fault they're pretty shitty
Yeah, but it's still humilliating for everyone involved, nevermind the additional harassment that might bring.
Frankly, folks saying "everyone will just start assuming all porn is fake and nobody will mind it anymore" are just deluding themselves. I dunno if they want it to turn out like this so they won't have to worry about the ethics of the matter, but that's not how people behave.
Have you met my mom? She would 100% love the fact that people are trying to see her naked.
Good for her, but a lot of mothers are less enthusiastic of seeing their children like that
So don't look. Just know that it's more likely to be fake.
Social media is not known for keeping things contained.
It's also not known for making you have to use it.
Today? I wouldn't say that so confidently (on Lemmy even). People working in media and marketing do have to use it. Even if they aren't in it, it doesn't mean they are immune to such a thing happening, or that people they know won't stumble on it.
This people wouldn't have personal contacts there. It's besides the point.
It's incredibly common for people not on social media to have friends and family member who are on social media.
If they're looking at my deepfake nudes, oh well. If they're looking at my real nudes, I'm calling them deepfake anyhow. Oh well.
What you call them might not change how others treat you for it.
Well fuck those others. Should we make a law banning bananas because I'm gonna punch you when I see them?
Most people wouldn't punch you because of a banana but most people would judge you for appearing in porn. However much you might say "fuck them", the one most likely to get fucked, ironically enough, is you. There are people who get fired over it. It's bad enough to be treated in such way if you choose to engage in it, it's even worse if you didn't even actually do it.
I guess the situation is more like someone dangling a banana between you and the guy who's likely to punch you.
Yeah well if you fire me for my porn, I'm gonna make deepfakes of you. "Most people" are gonna learn.
You might also just end up getting sued by your former boss on top of getting fired.
You gotta be pretty invested in it to think the solution to deepfake porn is more deepfake porn and that everybody is going to just accept it.
Deepfake porn isn't the problem. Assholes attacking each other is the problem. Do you think you can contain the technology instead? Lol. You can't. So instead, we have to figure out what to do about it.
My former boss will have to prove it was me.
Deepfake porn IS an attack. It is itself a form of harassment, if you are doing it with images of people who didn't consent to it.
Technology is not immune to laws either. We aren't in the 90s wild west anymore, it has been made more than clear that laws apply to the internet too. Even new laws, if needed.
This is not even something unique to the computers. The advent of cameras led to new laws, and so will AI.
Sure sounds like someone doing completely innocent things. Just wholesome tech enthusiast behavior.
My deepfake porn can't hurt anyone, but an employer having decision power to cut off people's stability can. You've decided your dignity matters more than me eating. You can go die in a fire now.
So you choose that the way to make them pay is to inflict deepfake porn upon them? Sounds like you can see how that can hurt just fine.
Meanwhile, what about someone who got deepfake porn without even get involved in the situation and got fired for it? They could very well say that the AI guy decided getting their rocks off mattered more than their dignity or eating.
No, making the deepfake porn of them is the obvious way to prove that it's possible and likely that I didn't actually appear in porn myself. Idk how you think it's just some kind of attack rather than a way to cast a shadow of doubt. Probably you're just stupid.
Why would it even matter to "prove deepfake is possible"? It's not any less humilliating for the person, and it's not any less of a PR issue for any business. Hoaxes can cause about as much harm as real compromising information, if they are spread far enough.
Every single insult you add I'm more convinced you just don't care about people beyond your ability to whack off for whoever you feel like.
You just can't wrap your head around the concept can you? You think people's imaginations are damaging rather than the fact of the choices you dignity people make. The harm is done by you people. If you fire someone over shit that's made up, that's a you issue. If you can't believe that it's made up despite the same being done with your own likeness conflicting with your memory, then you're just stupid. If you're business fails because you're chasing people away, that's your fault. What random shit the other 8 billion people are communicating to each other on the Internet can only hurt you if you decide to do the damage yourself.
Get over yourself.
Shit that's made up based on someone else affects the person who's it based on. This is a basic concept that you are sure to have seen if you have a minimum of real world experience. It's not even like you could pass deepfake as parody, when the point is making it seem real. Not everyone will be able to know it's not real, and it will still be humilliating regardless. Pretending it's so easy to be unaffected by lies and harassment is hollow grandstanding. I can only assume nothing of the sort ever happened to you for you to act so nonchalant about it.
This isn't even about me, but you can't get yourself to think of anyone else, can you?
What's the mechanism of the deepfake affecting you? Oh right, garbage people with influence over you that they shouldn't have.
Get over yourself and cut the umbilical cord.
Can I see your mom naked?
Shoot your shot. Why should I give a shit?
Nice, send me her OF
I doubt she has one. Also I haven't talked to her in years and I'm not about to start now.