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[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (7 children)

The ad aside, I just don't understand the appeal of paying $3,000 for a handbag when a $20 handbag will can do just the same thing. The only thing I can think of is people think they look cool or rich or better if they have a Prada handbag, but frankly, who gives a shit what kind of bag someone has? And second of all, if I saw you with one I wouldn't think you are cool at all. I would think you're the dumbest person alive.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

While it's true that you hit a point of diminishing returns, there's a sharp divide between, say, a $200 bag and a $20 bag. Technically a plastic shopping bag will serve the same purpose as a purse, but it's likely to break in less than a day. A $20 bag might last a few months of daily use if you're careful, but it's going to have cheap/non-durable materials, have cheap findings, and be poorly made. At $200, the odds are pretty high that it's going to be well made, use solid materials that will last, and have fittings that aren't going to corrode, fall off, or break in a few months.

I have a designer wallet that I've used every day for over 15 years, and while it looks beat up, it's still fully intact. I averaged about one every 3-4 years before I got this one.

See also: Cap'n Vimes boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair I've got a wallet from AliExpress that still works fine after 5 years. Unfortunately quality and price are not the same thing. Sometimes expensive stuff is made as cheaply as possible. As a consumer it's not always that easy to know when you are fooled.

Also it's not really true anymore that a good brand is still good. Lots of good brands decided to produce inferior products for higher profits. I think it's probably because a brand is bought by some investment firm that wants to maximize profits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The thing is that cheap stuff is almost guaranteed to be of bad quality, so that becomes a lottery where your chances of getting a decent quality get higher with higher bid but never 100%

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't pretty much every wallet survive for ever. As long as it's leather or something else durable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

My leather wallet has had random bits of recycled cardboard used to add stiffness falling out of it for a while now. It still functions, but I'm pretty sure some of the pockets are now more accurately tunnels to other pockets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Leather comes in varying qualities. Thread can break if the wrong thread is used. Snaps can fall off if they aren't set correctly, and they can corrode if they're plated badly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I got obsessed with designer replicas - I didn't buy many but I loved looking at comparisons on repladies.. and the cheaper dupes were often much better made and quality controlled than the authentics. We're still talking a few hundred for the bag but the genuine ones can be 10 or even 100 times the price. I know this isn't what you were talking about btw. It's definitely better to spend a bit more on a bag.. or anything, for quality!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Because they get to show off. Other people see it and they feel bad for not having access to the resources required to do this. And you know what? All of us do this shit in some way or another. Fancy cars, vanity muscles that don't actually help you, talent in things that have no real practical value, fancy collections, big house. All of us are performing, trying to tell the world "I am so amazing I can afford this waste". And if we have nothing to brag about we can always brag about our indifference. As if all of us secretly didn't wish deep down that they had so much money they could spend $2k on what should be 20.

I think you understand it perfectly fine, you just don't like what it implies about us all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't even know why anyone is impressed by it.

If you told me your shoes were $50,000 and didn't follow that with "they also suck your dick" I'd think you were just a moron, not super cool and worthy of emulation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

think

that's where you're going wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I don't think it's really about the shoes as it is saying "I've got so much money I can overpay this much on shoes and still make it to this dinner party instead of spending my time wondering how I'll eat or make rent". Maybe combined with a curiosity about what kind of shoes 50k will get you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

And if we have nothing to brag about we can always brag about our indifference.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That are only options are being superior or inferior or lying about our indifference? I guess.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So why do people buy 3000 dollar mechanical watches when a 20 quartz dollar watch can keep time better? Why do people buy 300 dollar mechanical keyboards when a 20 dollar rubber dome can also get words on your PC screen? Why do people spend thousands of dollars on Magic the Gathering cards when you can buy the same number of cards for 20 dollars?

Being into designer fashion isn't much different than other expensive hobbies, and the cost benefit of a hobby item is the last thing on the mind of any enthusiast provided they can afford it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So where do I fit in with my 20 dollar mechanical keyboard?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Entry level expensive hobby?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

If you have many millions of dollars lying around it might make sense, for the same reason it might make sense to a normal person to spend a few dollars on an item they could instead spend 50 cents for a cheaper version of if they wait a few months for slow shipping from China. What a pricetag means to you changes depending on how much you have to spend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Yes, but you and I aren't the market for these. There are a lot of dumb, impressionable people, and some of them have money too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I like these brands cuz they're like "from the rich, to the rich" kind of things. It has nothing to do with the rest of us. And we don't understand them either, like I recently bought some nice looking shoes made in probably some Chinese factory and they're gonna last me for years. Same thing with some branded shoes just more expensive, it's not they last longer or anything either cuz planned obsolescence.