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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Also maybe don't make me buy a car through a dealership. Why can't I just order and car and it gets delivered to my house instead of making me pick it up from a dealer that gets to charge whatever they want for being a middle man on top of the cars already being too expensive.

Side note and probably hot take but I think if manufacturers were serious they would be rushing to phase out most of their combustion vehicles. If people want a new car it's going to be electric and if they don't want EV then they can find a nice used car and pay a premium for gas.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Laws have to change for direct sales of cars, mostly at the state level. Dealership owners also happen to be big donors to state elected officials.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure about that. Interstate trade is the sole domain of the federal government technically. If you are in Tennessee buying from a manufacturer in Detroit, I would think that federal laws would override state laws. Realistically, I'm not so sure how that works okay out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's been this way for decades without a serious challenge. Tesla has tried and largely failed to fight this (whatever else you might say about Tesla).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think part of what Tesla failed at was opening direct buy dealerships in states, which becomes Intrastate commerce. They do allow you to direct buy, just not from the "showroom".

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Tesla... failed... at? Have you seen how profitable that company is now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Tesla failed at (one thing) is not the same as Tesla failed completely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think context is important here. We were talking about how Tesla failed to open direct to consumer dealerships owned by Tesla because of state laws.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I suppose that understates it. They failed to get laws changed in a few red states. Considering how they can't produce vehicles fast enough, I don't know how much that even matters.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Most states with sales taxes include auto sales, so it's also that they bring in a ton of government revenue.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Dealerships in the US are a cartel backed by the government. Multiple states have laws banning direct sales - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_US_dealership_disputes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I would like an electric car next, but I live in an apartment where I couldn't charge it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Talk to your landlord about adding the infrastructure. It's trivial for them to add 50 AMP rv-style outlets to one side of the lot, and you can then plug in your own mobile charger.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

landlords of apartment buildings don't like doing things like this or any other type of thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Take a look at Aptera. Specifically for this use case.