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Should the keys not be on the fob with the key to operate the vehicle?
Aftermarket hard top that locked into the top of the tailgate. You could unlock the tailgate but wouldn't be able to pull it down.
If memory serves me the hardtop keys were given to someone to get a tool and never returned to the driver.
This is why vans are superior to trucks.
Unless you are carrying chemicals constantly and don't want to be smelling the fumes all day.
My renault came with a solid steel cargo barrier and small glass window. You could carry a lion in the back and probably be fine.
You would trust your lungs to vehicle manufacturers getting every van air-tight with seals to last for many years?
because they eliminate the margin case of losing your aftermarket hardtop keys?
Both have their use cases. I wouldn't say one is better than the other
Millions upon millions of contractors in every country except the US would disagree
Of course they would because they don't need one for what they do. But I also imagine another few million around the world do. What you choose depends on what you need
Except they can't do the one other key function of a truck.
Tow
Vans can tow too. Many full sized Vans are a truck chassis and drivetrain with the body of a Van.
vans always have a much lower tow rating, the chassis and drivetrain are almost always different in some critical way
There are vans that can tow 3500kg trailers. With a payload in the van.
Apples to apples, those vans are more expensive and larger. At what point does it become ok to have an open bed? There are valid pros and cons in every choice being talked about, here.
When the distance from the back of the truck to the front of the bed is longer than the distance from the back of the cab to the front of the truck, it turns from a Sport Utility Truck into a Pickup Truck. Typically that's around when the bed gets big enough to haul a sheet of plywood or drywall safely.
Of course it's OK to have an SUT instead of a pickup truck, just not as useful for construction work.
So edgy.
What if you rest the wood on the tailgate, or lean it on the roof, then tie it down, is it no longer safe?
What if you're the driver for a small crew that picks them up every morning then uses the smaller bed for supply runs?
Just lemmy grasping at straws to put everyone into a box based on incomplete information.
I said nothing about safety. I just said it should be considered a different class of vehicle if it meets certain characteristics. SUTs are great for camping, for hauling surf boards & kayaks (possibly with a rack) and tow just as well as pickups. They don't have a full-size bed, so they're worse at most jobs, though the larger cab does mean they can carry more workers at once. It's a trade-off: get worse at most work-related tasks, get better at personal tasks and thus reach a wider market.
The tests have determined that was a lie
Nice to see you've realized it's a compromise and not some slam-dunk about the character of whoever's driving it based on no additional information.
That being said, truck bros can be as insufferable as anyone else with an ego, they're just easy to pick on
They mean that the key should be on the same keychain as the ignition key.